I remember reading this in high school. Some of the kids in my class would break down into tears as they tried talking about it and their tablemates would try to comfort them.
Where the Red Fern Grows isn’t depressing. It is sad, but it’s also sweet and elegant. It’s about growing up, facing the world outside your families protective sphere, and ultimately about the high price but greater reward of loving something other than ones self.
The Unwind Series is so powerful, the depth of discussion and analysis that could happen in high school would be amazing. The Red Rising is also another that could really be amazing. It has so much in it to dig into. So many characters for students to identify with and really explore.
I think it should be somewhat open to the student’s choice. Some kids aren’t going to enjoy the classics (I loved to read then, but I hated Ethan Frome that was assigned). I think it’s more important to stress a love of reading than focus too much on theme and symbolism, which I always felt should be open to interpretation.
As a former high school English teacher, it is all about teaching the joy of reading. Teaching the students that it really doesn’t matter what they are reading just so they are reading and enjoying what they read
I’m also a former high school English teacher. I think that we need to teach our students that there are different reasons for reading. We are never going to find even one magic book that every single kid in the room loves. And we are literature teachers, not hobby teachers. So when I taught A Tale of Two Cities, we were learning about motifs, symbolism and Dickens and Victorian era literature. “The joy of reading” was not the sole purpose. And some kids just didn’t like Dickens. I don’t either. And I openly told them that I don’t, every time. But we can learn something about literature without enjoying the book.
Sorry totally disagree with my classes it was the joy of reading. My students did not need aA Tale of Two Cities or too many of the classics. It all depends on where your students are headed in life. To me it was the joy of reading and that is where I stand. I taught alternative high school students.
@Amy beautiful reply. Class reads are for s completely different reason than what most kids will choose for themselves, and that is how it should be. Otherwise there will be no intellectual growth, and a shocking lack of knowledge of other times and places.
@Jean There was a generation of lit teachers who taught lit as nothing but reading for pleasure. I think it did their students a great disservice. Because when they didn’t enjoy the books given to them by those teachers, they concluded that they did not like to read. I was taught by those teachers. I did the whole “this is the best book ever and you will love it so much!” routine in my classroom for four or five years and then I realized what the result was. I started being honest. I would say to my kids, “some of you will love this; some of you won’t, but that’s okay and here is why we are reading it:”.
I went to a Catholic high school back in the mid-60s, where you’d think there’d only be a strict read-this policy. But that wasn’t always the case. I especially remember my all-time fav teacher (a nun) providing a list of books from which we were to choose for individual reading. I’m sure there were required books too, throughout JrHi (which was a public school for me) & SrHi – a couple Dickens, which I was not fond of, and some Shakespeare, another non-fav – but that list of options was great. It introduced me to some excellent authors. Of course, the “Young Adult Book Discussion Group” at the local library was even better (one novel that stands out for me from that Group was A SEPARATE PEACE, which I believe was a fairly new publication at the time). In my opinion, you need to do both things – show students that reading can be a joy, but also slip in some excellent literature. That “list of reading possibilities” for students might even be an extra-credit deal, although not sure that is workable in some classrooms. The bottom line is that the “trigger” for each person will be different because people are different, and teachers can only do the best they can – especially via showing an enthusiasm for reading different kinds of books, including stories that are also relevant to their lives.
@Marilyn I had one principal who wanted only lit that related precisely to the students’s own lives. We need to be very careful with that notion. Education should never be confined to looking into a mirror and so many people seem to think that in literature at least it should be. I’d bet a lot of money that most posters here have books on their favorites lists that relate not at all to their own lives in the tangible ways a lot of people think lit curriculum should.
@Amy I agree. I am only saying that this is one way to attract them to reading… then you get them to go beyond that so that they expand only what they read but ultimately their view of the world.
I teach middle school. There is so much amazing YA lit out now that kids can relate to that I don’t think the classics are necessary for middle school kids. Maybe a few in high school.
I teach at a high school. The required novels are “Of Mice and Men”, “Lord of the Flies”, “To Kill a Mockingbird”, “Great Gatsby”, and some Shakespeare, short stories, and poetry. However, students are required to pick novels of their choice (off of a list of over 300 books and plays) to read outside of class. “To Kill a Mockingbird” is generally the favorite book of students.
I taught at a high school where the literature curriculum was similar, In addition to Mockingbird, Lord of the Flies and Gatsby,we were thorough with Shakespeare with most students reading Romeo and Juliet, Julius Caesar, and one other, ranging from Hamlet, Macbeth, or A Midsummer Night’s Dream. They also read Orwell, Homer’s Iliad, and sometimes mixed in A Tale of Two Cities, Cry the Beloved Country, and A Prayer for Owen Meany. What I have loved is years later running into many former students who tell me how much they value their background in literature!
Our sophomores read “A Midsummer Night’s Dream” and I joked that I would be hosting a Summer Solstice party at 5:45 a.m. on June 21 at a local park. I’ve been thinking about whether any of them are coming this week!
My sophomores also read Midsummer, Rand’s Anthem, usually A Tale of Two Cities (but we did not get it in this year due to flu x 2 for me!), and Sophocles’ Antigone. Repeaters read Kafka’s Metamorphosis instead of Anthem. I also have a require independent read each nine weeks, and I am thinking about increasing it to two reads a nine weeks. They are given a book list of around 500 books ranging from classics, to mysteries, sci-fi and fantasy, tough stuff, and non-fiction. That is where the truly get to explore the lit they love. The Unwind Series, Night, The Outsiders, Animal Farm, and 1984 among others in these comments are all there. This year, we are adopting a new textbook, and I am looking at making some changes.
As for Shakespeare, freshmen do R&J, sophomores Caesar or Midsummer, and seniors do Macbeth. My drama class has done Twelfth Night or Taming of the Shrew. Drama also does Medea or Oedipus Rex, Everyman, and a few others, usually ending with A Streetcar Named Desire.
Three Cups of Tea by Greg Mortenson. 12 Years A Slave by Solomon Northup. Crank by Ellen Hopkins. Anything that deals with real world societal problems and human differences to help prepare them for what they will find and encounter once they’re out on their own. That way they can develop healthy relationships and respect and they can better understand certain situations.
I loved that book. It started out slow, but once I got into it I couldn’t put it down. The book was required reading for all freshman my first year in college and we even had Greg Mortenson speak on campus.
I agree with the comment what the kids want to read. Maybe compile a list from here or the 100 (minus 50 shades ?) and brief summaries and have the kids vote.
The Things They Carried is a big favorite. It’s tricky to teach, since the author classifies it as “a book about how to write a book,” but there are a million conversations, debates, and research papers just waiting to pop
Caitlin Alifirenka – I Will always write back Alan Gratz – Refugee Benjamin Alire Saenz Aristotle & Dante discover the secrets of the universe. RJ Palacio – Wonder.
Should any book ever be “taught” How about teaching the importance of reading and try to instill that in t he students. If grammar, spelling and writing skills don’t have to be taught (at least in some states) why should only certain books be taught
History should be taught through historical fiction. The classics should be introduced. Shakespeare should be watched. Literary terms taught from award winners. Then let students select from any of the above and contemporary fiction. Teach them a love of reading by not forcing entire books upon them.
Was just going to recommend historical fiction too! In addition to reading, generates interest and understanding of history. Books set in different culture than one’s own; geographic, ethnic, racial, religious, etc. Also biography/autobiography selection can be pretty exciting reading, spark career/field interest, provide more accurate look at things that sounded glamorous or exciting.
I had a really good history teacher in high school but I don’t think it really came to life for me until I read historical fiction. I think understanding the thoughts and values surrounding historic events are so much more important than memorizing dates and names.
One of the best university level classes I had was The Bible as Literature. The professor made it very clear that it was not a class to promote religion and I remember we still had one or two who would try to sneak in their own denomination ‘s beliefs. It would take a strong teacher to keep it from becoming a religion class so I would be reluctant to suggest it.
I actually agree, along with other religious texts. So much literature is based on religious themes, even when they are not overtly religious. My AP English teacher had us read excerpts from the bible to help us understand universal themes used in (mostly Western) classic literature.
I read portions of the King James Bible as literature in AP English in my public high school in Maine in 1989-90. It was taught SO PROFESSIONALLY. Not at all as “you have to believe this,” but as “much of Western Literature and Art reference the Bible – this is literature you need to know if you study English Literature.”
My parents are very devout Catholics and actually had misgivings about me reading the King James Version (technically not recognized by the Catholic Church)!
How can you know why we say “she extended an olive branch” or “they treat him like he walks on water or something” or “oh lighten up. This isn’t the Suffering of Job” if you don’t know the story?
I think there should be more modern books on the curriculum. The local high school is still teaching the same classics I read in school and while I appreciate the importance of many of those books, they also need more books that are based in the world teenagers are living in.
Annestasia Snyder While I think we need to teach the great things about America in grade school and high school, I think we must not hide from the atrocities that have been committed…..and continue to be committed.
I completely agree. I don’t believe the curriculum in schools exposes our students enough to the real history of this country. They try to hide the bad stuff while exaggerating the good.
@Annestasia And then when they grow up and find all the things that were concealed, they often feel betrayed enough to discount the good stuff about America.
I have thought about bringing in at least excerpts from Imbeciles about the Carrie Buck case to align with the Council of Eugenics in Anthem for that very reason. We cannot let these kids walk through the world with blinders on and thrust them into reality on graduation day.
@Linda, this is why the kids are constantly checking out my tough stuff selections, which include Go Ask Alice and the works of Ellen Hopkins. The voice of the character has to be believable and relatable to the reader. Some of my kids have opened up in major ways by reading these books!
@Megan This book changed me. And I am still after all these years reading wwll history . Just finished The Nightingale . Oh my goodness, what a teach this would be♥️
My parents preferred that we not read anything written after about 1960. While there are some great older books, and I don’t want to belittle the classics, only reading older books can perpetuate things that ought not to be perpetuated.
Well, I chose a program called Calvert. A brick and mortar school in Baltimore with the most amazing homeschool program. Rich in history and choice. My son, now in law school credits his 4th grade year with the beg of his love of history.
Linda, I actually think where your personal beliefs lie, there is your own propaganda. I forged my own path based on a ton of objectives. I have 2 successful children now forging their own lives ! One is a political consultant and the other a law student .
Speaking personally, I didn’t feel I was at the mercy of my teachers when I was in school. I read what I wanted to read. Assigned reading made me MORE of a reader, rather than less of one, because I read the books I liked on top of the ones that were assigned (happily, sometimes those two categories converged). The high school years were when I was discovering my adult tastes through writers like Franz Kafka, Umberto Eco, Jorge Luis Borges, Clarice Lispector, Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Peter Handke, Thomas Mann, August Strindberg, Suetonius, Virgil, Euripides, Edith Wharton, Sinclair Lewis, Albert Camus, Kurt Vonnegut, Eugene O’Neill, Don DeLillo, and many other writers we weren’t assigned. Through high school I was also introduced to Homer, Thomas Hardy, Chinua Achebe, Arthur Miller, Alan Paton, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Giovanni Boccaccio, Sophocles, Molière, and other favorite writers.
In my experience, the education I received helped mold my tastes just as much as my leisure time reading did. Often times I’d read something because it spun off from something I was assigned. I was so blown away by “The Odyssey” that I bought “The Iliad” and then “The Aeneid” by Virgil to continue the story. I liked “Oedipus the King” so much that I read the whole trilogy. Earlier this year, I also read “Sophocles II”, a collection containing his other tragedies, “Ajax”, “The Women of Trachis”, “Electra”, and “Philoctetes”, and that’s certainly due to the exposure to his great play in high school. I read the whole trilogy Achebe wrote (which continues with “No Longer at Ease” and “Arrow of God”), after I belatedly found out it was a trilogy because of how much I liked “Things Fall Apart”. Moreover, I was inspired to read other Nigerian writers like Amos Tutuola (“The Palm-Wine Drinkard”), Buchi Emecheta (“The Bride Price”), and Ken Saro-Wiwa (“Sozaboy: A Novel in Rotten English”). Just yesterday at the Friends of the Library book sale I bought two novels by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, another Nigerian writer. These are probably authors I wouldn’t have picked up on my own but for the prodding given to me by being assigned texts from outside my background in high school.
Aristotle’s Poetics plays a role in my classes with rhetoric being discussed in English and speech and the theory of tragedy falling into drama and English.
Yes, this exactly. Luckily, I didn’t need it because of the fact that I was reading lots of philosophy, even academic philosophy, but it would have been useful and saved time for me to not have to puzzle this stuff out on my own. Being a young atheist before “New Atheism” was a thing, I was curious to see if my atheism were intellectually justifiable and the only way to investigate the subject at that time was to dive into the deep end of philosophy with books like “Critiques of God” by Peter A. Angeles (ed.), “The Miracle of Theism” by J. L. Mackie, and “Atheism: A Philosophical Justification” by Michael Martin. Martin’s book in particular was heavy on formal symbolic logic and reading it was something of a struggle.
The suggestions here lack strong African American titles. Zora Neale Hurston, Maya Angelou, Toni Morrison (though maybe wait until college for her). And American-Haitian writer Edwidge Danticat. Love her work.
I think a lot of schools cover African and African diaspora authors already, even twenty-some years ago (which is when I was going to high school). I was assigned “Invisible Man” by Ralph Ellison, “A Raisin in the Sun” by Lorraine Hansberry, “Things Fall Apart” by Chinua Achebe, etc. And in addition to the full-length books we were expected to read, our American Literature textbook had numerous selections from Harlem Renaissance writers like Langston Hughes and Claude McKay, an essay from W. E. B.’s “The Souls of Black Folk” was included, as well as extracts from “Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass”, poetry from Phyllis Wheatley, etc.
And being a theater nerd, I was also reading lots of black playwrights on my own. I first discovered August Wilson in an anthology titled “Famous American Plays of the 1980s”, which included his play “Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom” (part of the Pittsburgh, or Century, Cycle of plays, which I subsequently devoured as fast as he was writing them — and, by the way, the adaptation of his play “Fences” is the best movie I’ve seen in years), read Amiri Baraka’s “Dutchman”, Wole Soyinka’s “Death and the King’s Horseman”, Anna Deveare Smith’s “Twilight: Los Angeles 1992”, Suzan-Lori Parks’ “Venus”, and saw productions of Parks’ “The America Play” and Don Cheadle’s “groomed (the unrefined technique)”. The latter is a very fine play but it’s now sadly forgotten, probably because it’s also a response to the L. A. Riots and therefore may not strike producers as timely. It was only four years past the riots when I saw the play but the memory of it is still green. Even his Wikipedia page doesn’t mention it!
A couple of teachers in my school have started teaching Yaa Gyaasi’s Homegoing and Colton Whitehead’s The Underground Railroad. The students have responded really well to these, especially Homegoing.
In my high school days we would read six books a semester plus do up to four book reports/analysis a semester. Each year we read a variety, and some are still on the reading lists at my grandsons’ school. Out of their classes, the favorite has been One Flew Over The Cuckoo’ s Nest and HUCK FINN!
I’m a high school teacher and I believe all high school kids need to be exposed to coming of age novels-it’s what we are about. I love Huck and Holden. I’ve fought for Song of Solomon and last year I taught A Lesson Before Dying (amazing discussion and thinking about author’s purpose vs protagonist and character). Also my students love The Crucible which seems current and important to consider. We also dig intensely into The Things They Carried.
A mentor once instructed me not to even think about it. Her words were something to the effect of “Don’t give them the gun to shoot you with.” We are in a very conservative area. I have fought to keep Anthem, because it is in my curriculum due to the kids wanting it to be in there. I have fought to keep Ellen Hopkins on my independent reading shelf, and Fahrenheit is there too. I encourage kids to read it, but I cannot do it as a class study with all of my kids, sadly.
@Jennifer, yes very sad. A true classic. Students are cheated when teachers are stifled from using quality, classic literature. You can only do what you can. Have a list of banned books on top of a pile on a counter top or your desk and some kid will see it accidentally!
I know some who make a shelf of banned and challenged books for Banned Books Week and put caution tape around them with “Do not read these!” signs. I may start that this year. That will get them reading! Forbidden fruit is extra tempting! ? Seriously, my parents all have to sign a disclaimer with their student before they can check things out of my library. The disclaimer says if they and/or the kid are offended by a selection, it is the kid’s responsibility to return the offensive book, get another one, and complete the assignment ON TIME. No excuses!
Fewer miserable and depressing books. More non fiction. More inspirational. How about Hidden Figures, The Night Circus, Much Ado About Nothing, Pride and Prejudice, Confederacy of Dunces, Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter
I totally agree with fewer miserable and depressing books. Why kids are forced to read Lord of the Flies still astounds me. It is one of a few dreadful books that are forced on young people. They should have some leeway as to what books they want to read. Maybe give them a list of 50 books and let them pick 10 to read (or whatever number of books comfortably can be accomplished in a school year).
@Pamela, standards guide what we can do. We have to teach different forms. I would love to just do novel studies. Unfortunately, curriculums are moving toward more and more excerpts. My colleagues and I agreed we will sit down together before school starts so we can each maintain the stories we believe it is important the kids read in their entirety.
@Jennifer I hear you. I teach too. Just thought of something cool that I developed that might appeal. Historical fiction. Short. Novels in a series of self contained vignettes in chapters. Companion books. A Long Way from Chicago and A Year Down Yonder by James Patterson. Set around the Depression in middle America. The former from a grandson’s perspective, the latter from a granddaughter’s — kids can choose. Serious and sometimes poignant but also very, very funny. The central character, Grandma, begs readers to explore morality — what does it mean to be a good person? Probably more middle school than high school. Wonderful as part of a project about the Depression.
I strongly think the books should reflect what they are learning in social studies. Of the books I had to read 50 years ago, I think Red Badge Of Courage, Scarlett letter, Return of the Native, James Fenimore Cooper, Shakespeare and The Odyssey should still be taught. I feel Animal Farm, Silas Marner, Death in the Family, On the Waterfront, and Of Human Bondage can be replaced with something else.
This is precisely why I have kept A Tale of Two Cities every time I have thought about swapping it with Great Expectations or Wuthering Heights. My tenth graders study World History, including the French Revolution.
@Jennifer I read Tale Of Two Cities in nineth grade in anticipation of reading it in tenth grade. Ended up in regular English where we read Death in the Family. Honors English read it and Greek plays and I’m not sure what else. Ninth grade was World History and we read in honors history Animal Farm, The Prince, The Communist Manafesto, and On the Beach since this was during the Cold War and Vietnam. In fact our World History book started with Japan and worked East from there. We never got further than Russia!
Esmeralda. The Absolutely True Diary of a Part Time Indian. Tulsa Burning. Even the Glass Mountain. Many kids are living with parents who are mentally ill. Need to read stuff that could help.
I didn’t read “Beowulf” until I was a freshman in college, but my instructor’s forte was Old English. It was a terrific experience listening to him recite “Beowulf” in Old English.
@Billy Have you seen the recording of Benjamin Bagby reciting “Beowulf” in the original Anglo-Saxon? If you haven’t, I’d recommend it. I believe you can get it from Netflix.
Old English is pretty much a foreign language compared to Modern English. Are the students going to get language classes first so they’re able to understand the foreign words on the page?
The copy we read had the Old English at the left page and modern translation on the right. We read the modern on our own for understanding the story and listened to the Old English to appreciate the poetry of the original.
So you never actually ‘read’ the Old English. And without the translation that someone already did for you, then you wouldn’t have been able to understand what was going on.
We used the Old English to learn about the peom’s structure…alliteration, rhythm, lenghts of each line etc. Listening to a book and reading a book have virtually the same benefits. We followed along with the book while listening. I found both the story and the “sound” of it captivating.
I love foreign languages and I often find myself listening to music in many different languages. I don’t understand much of what is said, but I can usually find a comment or two with a translation. The band Leaves’ Eyes has a song in Old English called Meredead.
Some good Canlit to include might be Barometer Rising by Hugh MacLennan and Fifth Business by Robertson Davies. I would also suggest Oliver Twist by Dickens.
Without naming specific books, I’d like to see a greater emphasis on books that bridge the gap between young adult and adult fiction, because one of the drawbacks of assigning young adult books is that they’re rather homogeneous in their vocabulary and syntax. They don’t challenge kids that much, so as a result students get stuck at a reading level several grades below . I’d like to see kid-friendly classics being mixed in with more modern YA fare from about 11 – 13, which would gradually prepare them for having to read adult lit as high school and college students. It doesn’t necessarily matter what they’re reading, so long as it strikes the balance between being not difficult enough and too difficult. The problem with assigning nothing but YA is that publishers are incentivized to train YA readers to keep on coming back, rather than expanding their horizons to different kinds of books.
However, I’d like to see Ovid’s “Metamorphoses” taught in high schools. Aside from the fact that it’s an excellent work in its own right, it’s also the basis for an extraordinary amount of subsequent literature, art, opera, etc. I think a lot of people are handicapped when reading great literature by not having a foundation in classical myth. And if “Metamorphoses” isn’t taught, they should at least teach Thomas Bulfinch’s “The Age of Fable” or Edith Hamilton’s “Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes”. But Ovid is probably best, because it was largely through him that the great writers of the past became acquainted with Greek mythology.
As a high school English teacher, I would add a few points for consideration: there are very few schools that leave the choice of which pieces to read up to individual teachers. They teach what is on the state or local curriculum. Even wealthy schools still read actual texts and they cost $$. We can’t simply go out and order whatever book we feel like. Next for those who (like my students ) complain that all the books we read are depressing…People don’t generally write novels when life is going swimmingly. It is when the world crashes around us that humans write to explore life’s great mysteries and tragedies. Additionally, we try to select books that require a skilled guide. No kid needs a mentor to read most YA fiction, but it takes a well-trained person to introduce the inexperienced to Shakespeare or Dickens. One person’s enjoyment of a piece doesn’t necessarily qualify it for classroom study: at least two books recommended on this thread are either wildly historically inaccurate and/or the author’s veracity in reporting events has been debunked. Remember too, all who want English teachers to teach history, that we are not history teachers. We do teach setting and context, of course, but our primary role is to teach how to develop critical thinking skills by practicing how to read, write, speak, and listen. Having said that, I try to give opportunities for free reading choice in class. The majority of my students (advanced and not so advanced sophomores) don’t read. They don’t have the ability to sit quietly in repose and truly read without being distracted endlessly by their phones. This is, alas, as true for my honors students as for any student. I encourage all the readers on here to adopt a few young people beyond your own family to share the love of reading with! Ask your non-reading friends to help us develop a love of reading that provides a model for our communities. We are seriously in danger of becoming a culture that does not read.
My daughter took AP English and we signed off for the teacher to go outside the core curriculum… I was all for it!!! She got to read a few selections that where thought provoking and made her uncomfortable…. it was a great class.
And then I forgot to write what I DO teach to sophomores: The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, The Taming of the Shrew, Lord of the Flies (personally hate its darkness but it’s brilliantly written), A Tale of Two Cities, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Anthem.
Eileen Connelly, ah. I yearn for an advanced class that I can do that with! I am in a small rural school. My drama class does Shrew or Twelfth Night while my sophomores do Midsummer. The sophomores also do Anthem, A Tale of Two Cities, and Antigone in their entirety along with required independent reads each nine weeks.
@Jennifer There’s irony. We were never taught “A Midsummer Night’s Dream”, but the drama class produced it when I was a sophomore (I played Duke Theseus). We were only taught the tragedies: “Romeo and Juliet” in 9th grade, “Julius Caesar” in 10th grade, and “Hamlet” in 12th grade. However, we did get assigned “Twelfth Night” in 7th grade because a local theater company was doing a production, which we were taken to see after finishing the play.
Kevin Gassaway, several years ago the Folger Shakespeare Library did a major survey about which seven plays students needed to be exposed to. That was when I changed my strategy and asked to do Midsummer and Twelfth Night with sophomores instead of Caesar. Curriculum changes have reduced me to one Shakespeare as of late for English, sadly. The Folger published a wonderful series of books full of lesson ideas for the seven works. The series is called Shakespeare Set Free. The seven plays kids need to be exposed to according to the survey’s results were: Romeo and Juliet, A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Twelfth Night, Othello, Macbeth, Hamlet, and Henry IV Part I.
Personally, I believe it is important for the kids to be exposed to his comedies and his tragedies. The kids usually are surprised how much they can relate to the comedies – especially Midsummer with the four lovers! I literally had a girl scream it was her life! Sadly, I am not kidding. Mere weeks before we started reading it her parents had called the cops after she snuck out with a guy they did not approve of, which was a super Egeus move. Several of my kids said Midsummer was their favorite piece we read all year this term, but I made them get up on their feet. Shakespeare is to be acted, not listened to on a record or read while sitting in a desk bored. Some may differ on that. Yes, the kids butcher some of the language. Yes, it is painful to hear at times, but I think it is important for them to read it. It helps them find the rhythm of the lines and get lost in the beauty of them.
In drama we have to talk about adaptation of a work from one form to another. Last year’s group wanted to read Twelfth Night after I told them the Amanda Byrnes movie She’s the Man is a riff on it. When this year’s crew chose The Taming of the Shrew, we looked at 10 Things I Hate About You.
Oh, and it blew their minds that Batman (Christian Bale) was Demetrius in one of the film adaptations of Midsummer we looked at in English. That is always fun.
For a homeschooling mom, this is great info. I am constantly looking at book lists trying to decide what are the most important books to cover with me boys. They are just starting high school and the lists differ so much that it is madding.
Absolutely, and thank you. My AP students read at least four books every year that I personally disliked, but the College Board didn’t ask my opinion and those books are considered classics. I still don’t like Heart of Darkness or Passage to India or Tess of the D’Urbevilles or Moby Dick, but my kids never knew that – I hope. The choice of texts, as you have said, was largely limited by the state curriculum or by the AP curriculum, but I suspect you and I did the same thing and brought in one or two pieces we really loved.
Here is my problem with the books you mention, they are all by white people. We are possibly becoming a Nation who does not read because teachers follow the white canon and blame school boards and administrators instead of championing novels and nonfiction by and about the faces staring back at us when teach. I teach History and English and my school district encourages us to collaborate with each other. Teaching novels as close to the time period that the history teachers are teaching. Diversity in novel choices has hooked more of my students to read than slogging through Dickens or Shakespeare. When my students see their faces in the novels I teach and the history we explore they feel a part of history not a sightseer of it and want to explore their history through reading.
@Lisa, I can understand that concern. Each school is different. However, I am in a district that is 98% white in the rural south. I have my diversity in my independent reading library in a major way, and I try to be mindful of that when picking selections. What I can teach, as noted by another above, is limited by what I have available. If I want a classroom set of something, I foot the bill for it. We are adopting new books this year, so you have given me something to think about as I plot next year’s course. Thank you.
@Lisa We have been working on that! Too many dead white European men! We’ve added Kindred by Octavia Butler and we do a close read of “Letter from a Birmingham Jail.” I do A Raisin in the Sun with my regular level kids (and squeeze it in if I can with the enriched groups).
@Jennifer even a majority white should dig into a novel that can expand their awareness of the world at large. When I want classroom sets of a book I create a project on DonorsChoose. I also have created my own classroom library with my own money. I am very lucky because I teach in an alternative high school the number of students I teach is much lower than colleagues in “regular” high school. May I suggest Mother of Rain by Karen Spears Zacharias set in Tennessee during the 1940s. It may have the face of your students in it. There is another novel set in Florida that my class enjoyed Slow Way Home by Michael Morris. Both are diverse for my students as the protagnists are white. Expansion of their experience can be diverse which includes the two novels above, my students are primarily Hispanic and they enjoyed Slow Way Hime because the experiences of the child in the book mirrored some their own experiences we had great discussions. I’m not backing down on my belief that all faces should be represented in the novels we present to our students. Sometimes their faces aren’t there, but who they are is.
@Lisa, I have tried donors choose and had zero success with it. I have taught Raisin in the Sun, To Sir with Love, letters and speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr., the Harlem Renaissance, etc. I never said I taught exclusively white authors. That notion is ridiculous to me. We read things with viewpoints very different from their own as much as we can. I too have created a classroom library with my own books. It takes up three big bookcases, and that does not count my classroom reading books. I am all about universal ideas and themes, and I am a big believer in presenting them. It is just challenging to do at times when you have 60-80 kids in a course and that course is one of four different courses you teach.
A variety of different contemporary books as well as the classics. It’s sometimes (often) hard to distinguish the YA books from adult books. The Book Thief is a good example of this. There are so many worthwhile books for every age.
Books that really engaged me in high school: the last book in the universe I never promised you a rose garden Go ask Alice Star girl The hobbit A great and terrible beauty trilogy The secret garden, a little princess Books by Todd strasser Books by se Hinton. Books by Scott westerfeld Books by tamora pierce Peter Pan and Alice in wonderland and through the looking glass The looking glass wars If you can introduce kids to books that don’t worry about challenging them and just let them enjoy reading, they may just read forever. And that’s the best thing you can learn at school—to love to read, cause you’re gonna forget at least half of everything else.
I did not like most classics in high school and resented having to read them, despite loving to read. In college and beyond I’ve learned to love them but I was stubborn then. I loathed: death of a salesman (still can’t stand this one) I didn’t like flat land. Or a raisin in the sun. I liked a separate peace. Of mice and men. ferenhiet 451. Huck Finn. Romeo and Juliet. Damien. I wish we’d done more Shakespeare. I feel like you really have to teach Shakespeare, you can’t just read it, the language is too different and the references too obscure. But once you get it, it’s brilliant and really fun to read.
I read Wrecked aloud to a class of seniors after she came to our school and did a reading from it. Taking the time to read it aloud and discuss it as we went along was one of the most powerful things I’ve done, ever, as an educator.
My 7th graders read her first book, Brett McCarthy, in literature circles. Outgrowing childhood friends is a theme that they related to and were glad to discuss.
I have gotten many chapter books for my students. I have taught cinder by marissa Meyer, Legend by Maria Lu, Maze Runner by James Dashner, Percy Jackson and the lightning thief by rick riordan, The house on mango street by Sandra Cisneros, and many others. I have expanded the kids worlds and hopefully gotten them interesting in audiobooks as well. I like to have the kids listen to the books.
The Chosen, by Chaim Potok, brought the Jewish world to my almost exclusively white Anglo-Saxon Protestant students. James Baldwin’s Fire Next Time opened up a new world, too. Their Eyes Were Watching God, by Zora Neale Hurston, was always a favorite. Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice showed us that we’re all human.
Well I disagree as the Common core suggests The Odyssey, MacBeth, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice and To Kill a Mockingbird. And those are just a few of the outstanding books recommended by CC.
My problem is not those Common Core suggestions; it’s the timing of them. You cannot convince me that sophomores get as much out of Macbeth as juniors and seniors.
@Nanci that argument could be made for almost any book…as a teacher and someone who majored in English I think introducing Shakespeare in some form from late elementary to middle school has real value. Also in my opinion MacBeth‘s themes are accessible to most 10th graders.
Sound and the Fury – great one but honestly too difficult for lots of folks to attempt outside of class. I read it it school and had a hard time with re-reading!
The Handmaid’s Tale, The Bluest Eye, The Chocolate War, To Kill a Mockingbird, Speak, Of Mice & Men, Hamlet, Julius Cesar, & Othello, Joy Luck Club, The Book Thief, 1984, Raisin in the Sun. Books that expose kids to different cultures, life experiences, & perspective. The whole idea of Walk Two Moons..spend some time in someone else’s story & it connects you to that person ❤️
Instead of specific titles, I think they should choose genres and give the kids a choice of ten titles within the genre. More often than not, teachers assign what they enjoyed or what they have taught into dust.
I think that teachers should throw out the lists they have that include dead white men authors and create a list of books that are more contemporary and meaningful to kids today!
I see your point, but I’m not going to rule out an amazing book or play just because it was written by a dead white man. Over the years I’ve had so many students (students of various races and genders, by the way) inspired by Hamlet, The Great Gatsby, and A Tale of Two Cities. However, I do agree with you that our reading lists should absolutely evolve to include more diverse perspectives.
I can’t see completely tossing out any book written by a dead white man, but we should include authors like Jean Toomer, Zora Neale Hurston, Toni Morrison, Maya Angelou, etc. The problem with teaching literature is there are so many books one should read but not nearly enough time to read them. Therefore The Canon dictates the most important books based on theme, writing style, etc. The problem with The Canon is the dead white men who decided which books should be on the list. The Canon needs to expand.
There should be a balance. Perhaps a grade wide required reading of one book for all classes and teachers to pull lessons from that changes every year. Something that is popular in society that year. For the year a classic play, classic novel, classic poetry sample, the same in modern, a book the teacher is passionate about, a controversial or banned book, a children’s book, and each student should pick a book they like with no restrictions to “sell” to the class.
8th grade and my best school experience ever. Teacher gave a list of well respected books and said that for each book read and reported on we would receive a little extra credit. My best grades ever…and I still remember some of the books.
Question. I am thinking of Socrates here. The idea of teaching a book is problematic. It is the other way around. My intent here is to succinctly circumvent (perhaps worthy) debate and give a shout out to the art of the written word.
As a long-time teacher of English ( 46 years and counting) my experience is that most books are ruined by teachers who insist on teaching one “special” book. All readers need choices and the affirmation that reader response is personal; no book is “the one” and every reader’s opinion of a book is the correct one.
Couldn’t agree more! I teach English through the workshop method where students choose their books. They read independently, in book partners, or book clubs. The learning is focused on reading strategies, writing/talking about the books. I usually do an all class novel once a semester once I know the class’s interests and needs. I’ve found that the traditional way of teaching English turns kids off to reading and this way turns them into passionate, engaged readers!!!
Thank you, Patricia Naqvi. Obviously, I could have retired a long time ago (Actually, I’m a Professor Emeritus) but I love to teach and I love helping students to realize that they CAN write and that good writers are good readers and good readers are good writers.
As a former English teacher, the first thing I would say is what another teacher said above: we don’t have the luxury of teaching absolutely anything we want or having an unlimited budget to hand every kid the exact book he or she wants to read. Additionally, the majority of my students would tell you that their first choice of book is to not read a book at all.
I take them to the library and persist with each kid until we kind that one book that will turn them on to reading. I take it as a challenge and I’ve only had a handful that I haven’t been able to break! It’s why I teach what I do!
When my kids were little, our rule was that each of them could get a book anytime we were in a Bookstore When they were older and always had friends with them, I extended my rule to include the friends who were with them. I was a very popular mom, especially when we lived in towns with small bookstores. I miss the independent bookstores. Our kids and grandkids are all voracious readers.
I think poetry should be taught–poetry that is not oblique or obscure. Poetry by people like Frost, Dickinson, Mary Oliver, Gwendolyn Brooks and many others. Just 4to 14 lines on which to focus. It will help to develop a sense of the language and the playfulness it can have.
Include some poems to make them think such as “Dulce et Decorum Est” and “What They Did Yesterday Afternoon” by Warsan Shire. Avoid all poetry books with “staff written” poems. I’m a retired banker and bookseller so I’m talking through my hat here, but I have talked with young people about falling in love with poetry by simply showing them how to read it. Mostly they want to either sing song it or pause like there’s a period at the end of each line. No wonder they don’t understand. And, if you want to give them one full of allusions and imagery like “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock” at least give them a hint that he’s talking with his cat. OK…removing my know-nothing teaching hat now.
My dad loved poetry. When I was a kid I remember him reading some of Poe’s poems to us. I always enjoyed “Annabel Lee,” “The Bells,” and “The Raven.” He had a wonderful speaking voice and would use it so effectively to enhance the readings. I remember he used different voices for each of the different types of bells, which always made it fun and a joy to hear.
Loretta Murphy Stotter, I love Poe. I am going to fight to keep “The Masque of the Red Death” even though it is not in the book we are adopting. I get Usher and Raven instead. I will probably do them as well, but my reading of Masque on Halloween with special lighting and connections to The Phantom of the Opera (novel and musical) has been a Halloween tradition for my sophomores for over ten years. I intend to keep it. It is something kids still talk about to me years after they were in my class. The Monkey’s Paw isn’t in the new book, so Usher and Raven can go there. Plus, I use Dickens’ pet raven Grip to connect him and Poe as contemporaries..acquaintances as well but not friends per se.
In the book Laura H explained that teachers of history knew this was a problem, WWII is / was much more then D-Day, Hitler and Germany. Another example: the history of Truk Lagoon vs the USAF and U.S. Navy. Black chapter in U.S. history!
Graphic novels have been a big help in this lately in my classes. You just have to be sure the writing is of good quality and the content is age appropriate. Lots of my kids are into anime, so manga is a natural fit.
So here’s a question, and I mean this in a completely snark-free way: Is it valuable to a student’s education to read an assigned book they might not like or agree with? Or is it better to allow students to choose whatever they want to read? (OK, 2 questions actually)
There is value in both. Sometimes you get lessons you didn’t expect from books outside of your comfort zone. Also there are skills to learn from assigned books. But doing a free choice also has merit. It is important to have both. Kids need to read things they are assigned as well as choices. There is always a kid who finds a favorite when you assign a novel. I read Cinder by marissa Meyer with mostly boys and they LOVED it and they never would have chosen it.
Both. Assigned books are important to teach students reading comprehension and content and HOW to take in a novel so they can then take one in on their own.
I’m glad to see there’s support for both. It’s easy these days to live in a self-curated world among people and ideas and experiences of our own choosing. It’s important to get out of the echo chamber and be exposed to new worlds, even if we think it’s a chore. Sandy, I have to respectfully disagree with allowing students to read excerpts of dead white guys. Reading bits and pieces takes away the integrity of the work and doesn’t really show the book as a whole or allow the reader to experience it as the writer intended. It’s kind of like having students study famous works of art or sculpture by only looking at 2 square inches of the piece.
Agree with @Katie and @Stephanie. Journaling with students about books of choice or facilitating book blogs of choice books is valuable. Yet group discussions on common reads can be so beneficial.
I require my students to read one independent book per month with approval (7th grade). They get some time to read in class daily and write me a letter about a literary element in their book at the end of each week.
@Stephanie I wish my kids middle school English teachers required this assignment! Not only would it expose them to new books/authors/genres, but it helps build the habit of reading. Love this idea!
I think at least one book a semester should be the student’s choice and I was an English major for myundergrad degree and did teach high school English for a while.
Well reading is a reflection of culture and history. As a former teacher of literature, I think it’s not so much about choice of what students like to read but learning about historical perspective and exchanging opinions and creating understanding and insight. Jayne
Ishmael; To Kill A Mockingbird; Kindred; Tale of Two Cities; The Help; The Kite Runner; Harry Potter; Anne of Green Gables; The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks.
My grandson read The Last Lecture by Randy Pausch this year. He is not a reader at all but this book had an impact on him. I agree with Lee Kupperman that exchanging opinions, creating understanding and insight, and thinking for themselves are very important for high school readers.
Shakespeare, classic poetry, Dickens, Chaucer, Hawthorne, Doyle, Verne, Dumas, Tolkien, Cooper I think we need to teach the classics again. I love Harry Potter but language wise it’s 5 th to 6 th grade. We need to expand minds and teach skills. There is a desperate need for rhetoric and to teach kids classic english. Shaw had a point in Pygmalion, How you speak read and write determines social class, by not teaching our children proper English , we are making it harder for them to escape and better themselves
I like the idea of whole classes reading the same book to discuss and analyze but I also like choice. Maybe at the beginning of class they could vote on a few from the lists of books the school has in sets.
District curriculum dictates what books are to be read as a class. When my 6th grade teacher decided to ditch the basil readers for everyone reading Men of Iron by Howard Pyle, a Reader Digest series that later would become SRA, and journals on our free reading, she was threatened with dismissal for not following the curriculum. She was the best teacher and we learned so much from her but no school district will allow experimentation. Part of my frustrations as a teacher. ?
@Roberta, it really depends on the district. I have worked in three in my career. The first was very flexible, the second basically handed me a syllabus and informed me that was what I would teach period, and the third is somewhere in between – open to change, trusts the teacher, but also concerned with how parents will react. If you can prove to them why the change should be made with research, the admin in district three will usually agree to it. At district two, it turned out they did not have classroom sets of Shakespeare’s Othello, which was on my syllabus! That was about the only input I got to give. We ended up doing Midsummer and Twelfth Night in its place after I discussed it with the head of our department.
I grew up in the Detroit Public School system. Our teacher bought the books from Scholastics for us so we could highlight pages. Hopefully she got a teacher’s discount. I was an elementary school teacher. My first district required we turn in weekly lesson plans to the office besides yearly and monthly overviews. I doubt anyone does that because I have walked into classrooms as a sub and there is nothing, not even a personal plan book!
Roberta, quite often teachers are urged to keep their plan books and grade books with them in and out of school in case of emergency. I know that it is second nature with me to grab a grade book/playbook before I leave my room for the day because that has been ingrained in my brain.
@Cara you can understand the frustration for me as a sub with no clues. Thankfully most teachers post the day’s schedule on the board before they leave so I have that. I had one second grade class where we spent most of the day doing Weekly Readers and my games because not even the other teachers had a clue as what was happening. I also had one 6th grade teacher who left me the same lesson plan 3 times! At least I knew the students and the school so I could wing it but I refused further assignments for this teacher.
@Roberta– I definitely understand. As a teacher I usually leave lesson plans, but if not I kept a box with sub plans written on it. There were about 100 different worksheets run off for the class that I knew ahead of time they could do.
Ann Petersen In this case, the “other lands” would seem to be the United States. I looked at the PDF of the 2018 books and there were only four authors on the whole list who weren’t American: Garth Nix (Australia), Sandra Uwiringiyimana (DRC), Carrie Mac and Leslie Livingston (both Canada). Marie Lu was born in China, but she was only 5 when her family moved to the United States, and she’s American by nationality. “Young adult” books as a separate genre is largely an innovation of American publishers, so lists of YA are going to be biased toward American perspectives and writers.
Also: “The books are selected by the readers themselves, so they are bound to be popular with middle and secondary school students.”
This is the same reasoning that would say because “Fifty Shades” was a bestselling series that everyone in this book group is bound to like it. It’s really striking to me that they tout this as a selling point without thinking of the fact that there may be a reason why we don’t let children set the curriculum in other classes — because they don’t have the experience to be good judges of what they need to know — and applying that same logic to the present case. If this had been the approach when I was in high school, we would have been reading the “Animorphs” series and I would have hated my English classes. It is a bit patronizing to be fobbed off with books just because they have teenage protagonists or because other teenagers supposedly like them. But it is a great scam for the publishers. By constantly renewing the lists of must-have books, they obviate the possibility that schools will choose public domain books that can be bought cheaply from discount publishers, and the possibility that the book will be so well-known (even if still in copyright) that used or library copies are plentiful or that many parents will have copies in their own possession. That was what happened when my school assigned its read-it-because-it-has-a-teenager-in-it book, “The Catcher in the Rye”. I borrowed my parents’ copy off the shelf at home. Instead, they’re trying to foster constant demand in schools as well as at home for an endlessly renewable stream of recent copyrighted works.
Thank You for Arguing by Jay Heinrichs. Students need to learn the art of persuasion and debate. They need to form opinions based on facts that they have researched from reputable sources. They need to learn to listen to all sides of an argument with respect for the speaker, especially if the speaker’s opinion is different from their own. Students need to learn to think for themselves
Any book from the 20th. century down. Some of the best are To Kill a Mockingbird, A Scarlet Letter, The Diary of Ann Frank, Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Little Women, and anything from Shakespeare and Edgar Allen Poe. Are just a few I can think of first. But home economics books would by great too. To teach how to make things; like sewing/ cooking books. ??
@Irene I read it in 8th grade. Voluntarily. Never was taught in my high school. Read it many times over the years, always something new in it to discover and appreciate.
Go Set A Watchman was a book Harper Lee wrote before To Kill a Mockingbird, kept in a vault for many years. She was deemed to be coherent enough to approve the release of the manuscript. I found it even better than To Kill a Mockingbird. She was a neighbor of Truman Capote in the south. She helped in reading some of his manuscripts, and some speculate that she did some of his writings??
@Irene I read it, too. Makes a good companion piece. I don’t know if she wrote for Capote but I’ve read she did nearly all the research for In Cold Blood, while he did the interviews with Dick and Perry.
Les Miserables, Little Women, Catcher in the Rye, The Painted Veil, The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle, Wuthering Heights, Jane Eyre, To Kill a Mockingbird, Greek Classics, Dickens Classics, Grapes of Wrath, Of Mice and Men, Shakespeare’s plays, Diary of Anne Frank, Brave New World. Too many to mention! The list goes on and on!
I remember way back into freshman year of high school we had a list of 10 books to choose from and had to read at least two of them during summer. That’s when I read A Wrinkle in Time and Jane Eyre for the first time. It kept my love of reading strong. Students definitely need more choices rather than being told they have to read a specific book.
I think the love of reading should be encouraged – my English teacher used to give me Stephen King and sci fi.Not on the syllabus but it would be good to have something off left field maybe?
Ahhhh!!! Wait! I was a middle school literature teacher for many years. Teaching kids how to approach good writing, how to unlock it, how to not be intimidated by it, how to model it in their own writing…this is exactly what was done for me when I was in school.
I love lit classes. As a comp sci major in the 80’s I took literature for all of my electives. I could never have understood 100 years of Solitude without my literature teacher. I love discussing meanings and writing. I grew as a reader and a person.
If they could treat it like a “book club” and let the kids share what they personally took away from the story, then I fully support “teaching” with books. If, however, they test you on whether or not you understood the points that they were trying to push…I have a problem with that. I learn so much more from good, quality discussions than I could with a cloud of pressure hanging over my head that I am expected to read and comprehend specific ideas or concepts.
I’m sure teachers let kids share about their ideas and feelings but there are real, defined, issues that should be taught to students. The teachers are usually well educated on the books they teach. They are the experts. And being tested over a book is part of life. Reading for school is often different than reading for pleasure. Hated the Iliad but learned from it.
but–some “forced” reading does open up students to books they would never have read. Many students find they like the assigned reading. I think the teacher’s approach and a great classroom discussion makes a huge difference. Just my opinion.
Oh, I love The Cay. It was a phenomenal book to use in a novel study back when I taught 5th graders. But even as an adult I’d enjoy it. Now that you brought it up it’s on my reread list.
@Nancy, as a middle school teacher, the 7th graders read it. The 6th graders read The Karate Kid and 8th graders read Diary of Anne Frank. They liked all the books. I really liked The Cay, also.
Books set in other countries or cultures. I think it was Mark Twain that said “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness…”. I think people need exposure to others to realize there are different ways to do things. Reading can stand in for travel…
Reading the sequel now. Wonderful book, really well written and makes you think. We all want to think we’d be on the side of Maya. But against the “Golden One” would we?
Ok, this is a long post, but I have very strong opinions about this and related subjects. *gets on soap box*
Personally, I grew up being required to read a bunch of books. While I do like that it introduced me to some great literature, I hate that it took up almost all my reading time. For example, I don’t have fond memories of Grapes of Wrath not because it was a bad book, but because in my mind, it was that assignment that kept me from reading 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
I think major subjects in literature should each have one book. Literature is supposed to make you think and reflect upon the world and yourself and I think THAT is what should be emphasized more than individual books. *gets off soap box*
The books that impacted me the most in school and that I thought we got the best discussions out of were Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Hamlet (read out loud in class)
haha , yeah , except for ” Deliverance” ; the one book we asked our two children to never read . And they didn’t !!!O course , Tom adopted Bart Simpson’s GUIDE TO LIFE as his particular manifesto while Lela carried around Mercedes Lackey and Laura Ingalls.
I think there should be a very fascinating poetry book , teacher could assign kids to all read a particular stunning one , say , “Dirge Without Music ” and they could talk about it the next morning . .( Of course , if this was 2001 my son would read it on the way to school the next day . . )
Unbroken, Endurance, One Summer: America in 1927, The Boys in the Boat, All The Light We Cannot See. There are so many books about history that are so well written, they would really spark interest in kids and they could learn what people have gone through in their lives and realize how incredibly easy they have it in life. Maybe it would help them grow up and be more responsible and appreciative and less entitled and sensitive.
I enjoyed most of the books I was assigned, when in high school, though I didn’t enjoy any Ernest Hemingway novels. Did it do me any harm to read books i wasn’t fond of? No. Nor did it prevent me from finding time for pleasure reading. My point? I think it’s important to expose young people to a variety of authors and genre. I also believe the classics are still relevant.
I’m from a fairly poor socioeconomic background, the dysfunction in my house was not as pointed, yet it was kinda the same in that my dad was hot and cold on the parental role, leaving my mother who was overwhelmed with 4 kids and limited resources ill-equipped to deal with us, and so she more or less let us fend for ourselves. Reading this book reminded me, and made me glad that it wasn’t this bad.
I don’t think specific books should be taught in high school. You do not instill a love of book in kids by forcing them to read a classic. I would rather they be encouraged to find books that speak to them.
I fear high school is too late. If a young person doesn’t love books by then, it probably isn’t likely they ever will. Children need to be read to and provided a variety of reading materials at a very early age.
I do think they need to be exposed to classics. We lived near a childrens’ theatre that sometimes produced classics and my kids also enjoyed those without being required to read. When they were older, they did read some of the classics because they were interested.
@Heidi both my children were provided a variety of reading materials at a very early age both were read to from the time they were born. One loves to read and one finds it difficult. and I don’t think it’s that people don’t like to read I think there’s a variety of reasons why they might find it difficult to sit still long enough to read. Is one example of why are person might not like to read. But I don’t think it’s ever too late for anything. You sound like a teacher from a public school. Where they don’t teach individuals they teach groups.
@Jeanne I’m not a teacher but I am the mother of 4 grown children and 4 school age grandchildren. I stand by what I said, it is unlikely a child will learn to love reading if they haven’t done so by high school. Key word, unlikely. It’s also why I suggested a variety of types of reading materials. My son wasn’t the best reader but he liked comic books. Then he discovered computers and started going through HTML books. We made sure to have what interested each child.
My son, who has learning disabilities, started reading my husband’s car magazines in middle school because that is what interested him. His reading improved so much by 8th grade. He became an excellent reader in high school and was reading all sorts of books on his own by then. After high school, he became a certified mechanic, welder and machinist, so he has learned several trades and has a successful career and is able to support his family and himself through a lot of blood, sweat and tears. None of this would have been possible if he had not been able to read.
@Heidi The original question had nothing to do with the idea that high school would teach children to read. The question was what books should be required reading in high school. Forcing kids to read certain books might turn them off to reading while allowing them to pick books that speak to them might foster a deeper level of books
Books that expose them to other cultures, the truth about history. I recently finished Beloved by Toni Morrison and it opened my eyes to slavery and racism. I think sometime we have an unrealistic picture of issues.
All the classics – Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Black Beauty, Hans Brinker and the Silver Skates, Where the Red Fern Grows, Treasure Island …. the list goes on and on…..Huckleberry Finn, Tom Sawyer….
I am a big believer in kids being exposed to The Classics. When I was in high school, we had a summer reading list, but I don’t remember that any of the books were good. I was lucky because my mother was extremely well read. She introduced me to Somerset Maugham, Jane Austen, the Bronte sisters, Hemingway, Guy de Maupassant, Dickens and Thackeray to name a few. I think my teenage years would have been a lot harder without these wonderful friends.
I also think kids should be exposed to the classics. We read them when I was in high school in the 60’s in Northern California. I have always felt fortunate that I had great teachers who exposed us to great literature-Steinbeck, London, Hemingway, Tennessee Williams, as well as the classics. I do know that the education I had in high school and certainly college, has had a huge influence on my whole life, especially in the wide range of books that I enjoy reading.
I liked The Kite Runner, also A Thousand Splendid Suns. My mother-in-law hated The Kite Runner so I couldn’t get her to read anything else by the author.
Call me American by Abdi nor Iftin Refugee by Alan Gratz Ali and Dante discover the secrets of the universe by Benjamin Alire Saenz Wonder by RJ Palacio Tell the wolves I’m home – Carol Rifka Brunt. The boy in the striped Pajamas by John Boyne. A monster calls – Patrick Ness
Books that are easy reads and great stories but with a lot more than just the story..
I am reading a glorious novel by Chris Cleave (Little Bee) which takes place in London during the Blitz. The title is “Everyone Brave is Forgiven.” I love it!
Back in my day, with the exception of TKAM (which is my GAR vote), most of the required reading titles that I can recall were dystopian literature (and Shakespeare tragedies)–1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies…I never have understood why. There had to be something else with merit we could have read that wasn’t “the future will be terrible, and power is corrupting”. I have always been a reader, but if I had not been, those titles would not have inspired me to read anything.
In our 8th grade Honors program we teach Night by Wiesel, The Count of Monte Cristo, A Christmas Carol, and To Kill a Mockingbird. We believe in classics.
I believe in classics, as well, but the reality is that students today can’t relate to the story lines in such books and if the books are “taught”, then often students will see the books as just another classroom exercise. If the books are presented according to the theory espoused by Louise Rosenblatt (reader response) then students are inclined to experience the books rather than endure them.
@Ann , our students don’t endure them. CMC is a favorite, and the teaching of it is an event. The other teachers get excited when students begin reading it. They are surprised by ACC because they have seen every version of the story line. The Holocaust always intrigues. The hardest is perhaps To Kill a Mockingbird because they are about to graduate and have serious senioritis…8th grade version. Reader response is one way. Teacher enthusiasm is another, and I am super enthusiastic about those books.
But I know what you mean. There is a preconceived notion in them about classics. It’s like our poetry unit…takes a lot more energy to get them to want to go there.
Students should be exposed to more critical theories than just reader response. I’ve also found that the heavy use of it exclusively in lit classrooms leads to a lot of problems. 1-Encourages watering down curriculum to only recent and less challenging works that the teacher believes students “can relate to” —then we have education as a mirror instead of opening windows to the world. 2-Discourages discussion and discovery of more complex literary structures, 3-takes work out of the author’s culture and context (or eliminates this problem with “relevant” and easier material). 4-Convinces students all reading is for pleasure and something they don’t easily enjoy lacks value. The last is very problematic as most of our students will not be lit majors. They need to know how to slog through that ed psych text or medical research journal or history text for their future.
It is still a little hard for me to think of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD as a classic! Of course, it is well-qualified to be termed one – and a fav of mine – but when I first read Mockingbird it was relatively “new,” as was the movie with Gregory Peck when it premiered. Obviously I am a child of the ‘60s (more like a “teen of the ‘60s”) and I can even recall as far back as the 50s and watching the integration of the Little Rock schools, being appalled at how those children & their families were being treated. So many memories on this score, and today’s headlines make me fear parts of our country are returning to (or never really changed as much in attitude) a warped vision of an all-white nation, with any non-whites not meriting basic human rights. And yet citizens are once again stepping up to the plate, making known that they do not agree with a “menu” that includes the stripping of those rights. I guess what I am getting at is that this is a “classic” that is easy enough to relate to current times, so long as teachers are allowed to do it. It contains the roots of what many are trying to protect today. Definitely TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD should be included in every h.s. curriculum. I’d say the same for THE THINGS THEY CARRIED, 1984, & A HANDMAID’S TALE.
Marilyn Zembo Day , one year I remember that I was going on about how the blacks were treated; I wish I could remember exactly what I was saying because it would make this more understandable. Maybe I was telling them about my own experiences. Anyway, I could tell they weren’t tracking with me. One of the students finally said, “Ms. Jackson, that hasn’t been our experience. We have grown up together.” I remember being stopped short by that. And it was true of that class; they were all friends and socialized together. It made me rethink how I would approach the book. I read it soon after it came out, and the racial injustice really resonated with me. Still does.
Students not only need to understand the time period a story is set in, but also the time period in which it was written in. They need guidance on how literature reflects and affects society as a whole and not just the reader’s perspective. This not only teaches critical thinking, but also empathy and broadening one’s perspective.
@Penny I love those choices for 8th grade. I think they are a great bridge between Young Adult (pre-high school reading level) and Classic/Modern literature (high school/pre-college reading Ievel)
The classics and poetry. Students get out of it what you, as a teacher , put into it. These are both wonderful areas to teach. You never know what will become of it. Example: “All that poetry we learned in your English class made me a better song writer. I write most of the lyrics.” Who would have guessed.
I love poetry. The longer I have taught it, the more I have fallen in love with it. It’s not always a teacher favorite, I have discovered. When we start the unit, I ask how many of them don’t like poetry. Lots of hands and groans. It’s a hump to overcome.
They need to start teaching the classics like Aristotle, Plato, Homer, and Ovid. They should also teach other philosophers. Kids today don’t know how to think. They’re told what to think. The classics and philosophy will teach them how.
Yes, I agree with that. Such a battle these days though. I am about to begin my 46th and probably last year of teaching. There is still the expectation of covering all the things we should, and yet so much has changed in the world. It’s a much harder struggle for their time and interest than before with all the distractions out there . There are a lot of things that should be done, and our school works at it all the time. But the battle is real. I know what you are saying, and there are a lot of things we ought to do…and we keep trying.
I don’t fault the teachers, Penny. I know the profession is difficult from experience. I don’t even know who is to blame. I feel like we’ve lost an important battle with the government or tech and advertising companies — a battle we didn’t even know we were fighting. Good luck this school year, and thanks for your years of service to our children.
@Penny kudos to you and to all the other dedicated teachers out there! I am who I am today because of some wonderful teachers I had, especially one in 8th grade and one in high school, who exposed me to the classics, poetry, different types of literature and critical thinking. I am forever grateful that I had such great influences in my life, including my parents. I have also exposed my children and grandchildren to different types of books. I agree that it is tough doing that with the youth of today with so many outside forces against us.
@Rebecca thanks. As you can imagine, I am going in with mixed emotions, knowing that this is probably it. But what a run. I wouldn’t change it for the world. As the old song says, “With all its faults, I love it still.”
Philosophy the modern way? My son was reading a comicbook about a self-thinking robot family… We had a great discussion about that topic! If that robot is able to make a decision .. are you allowed to turn that robot off if you do not agree? I love classics but am hesitant to use them before a deeper love of books has been born..
@Donna oh my gosh! How fascinating was she! What was she like as a teacher? Our Holocaust speaker that came to our school each year was amazing. He looked like a successful well-dressed businessman, much like their grandfathers looked. And then he opened his mouth and told his life story. There was something about that juxtaposition that made his story that much more unbelievable.
@Dorine – Someone must have versions for children?
I think your post illustrates the larger problem. You read with your son and discuss the book. Many parents don’t discuss books with their children much less read themselves. Many parents shove some form of technological device at their children to keep them occupied. No book can compete with what those things do to their brains.
Penny Jackson. Mrs Scardigli was such a kind, interesting person. She always had a smile and made everyone feel welcome. She even made Don Quixote fun for students who weren’t that interested. She was a very inspired teacher. I graduated from high school in 1964 and I will always remember her.
@Rebecca I read with my children and discussed the books afterwards. I think it made the books more meaningful and it also gave me a clearer idea of what they understood and remembered. My son (who is now an adult) has learning disabilities and reading together helped his reading retention. He was a great reader by 8th grade!
@Rebecca .. so true.. we read a lot and try to learn every day. We moved from Europe 4 years ago and I am still amazed by how willing kids in the US are to read and learn! Going to find out whether there are versions for children, in Holland (a small country and in comparison very few people speaking Dutch) you only get ‘the originals’, somewhat modernized at best. They are really in despair about reading/writing/spelling in general because ‘it’s enough if you understand me’ has become common.
This may be a cop out answer but, I think the best person to answer that is a really well read high school student and here is why. Because I am such a completely different human than I was in high school. Assuming that a teen will get something out of a book that I got something out of is faulty thinking.
I absolutely love this comment. I just graduated high school last year and I remember having teachers who seemed to think that EVERY student should be incredibly moved by EVERY classic novel we read. It was really annoying and kind of felt like they were saying that we weren’t smart enough to have our own opinions because of our age. Just because the average 30-something finds meaning in it, doesn’t mean that I will at 17.
I’m a high school student who totally agrees! So many of my peers either don’t read or dread reading the assigned books… it’s heartbreaking because the habits we creat in high school will likely follow us for the rest of our lives
Caroline Francois I totally agree with you. I am a grandmother of 10 and 8 of them love to read. I am working on the other 2! I do not condemn younger people, especially those of you in high school. You are our future. I have many young friends-some in high school. I love talking with them and listening to their ideas. It is so refreshing, and yes, it does take me back 50 or 55 years. Keep going, keep reading, keep learning and never give up. Many questions in life you will not solve until you are older. I am 71 and I am still not too old to learn. You are young so enjoy your journey.
If you think high school is bad for being forced to read things you don’t want to, wait until college and/or the workplace. Believe me, Anatomy and Physiology of Speech, Swallowing, and Hearing Mechanisms isn’t exactly a page turner. ?
Yes. I majored in library science and didn’t read anything for about 4 years after undergrad school. I eventually got over it but the professional/academic reading killed it for me for a while.
The longest story I read in highschool was a Readers digest version of something to enable me to write one book report. Now, I can’t get enough reading and digesting and discussing of many Genres. So..readers change.
Yes, our tastes change. I am downsizing from my home to a condo due to changes in my health. I have been boxing up books that I have either read or no longer want. I am giving them to a lady who is having a fundraiser yard sale for her sister-they lost everything in a house fire. It struck me yesterday that I have ALL types of books, so hopefully most of them will sell. The leftovers will be donated to charity. I don’t believe in ever throwing books away.
The absence of a little background info on why a book was being required may have made reading a book more appealing. My 1st year college teacher made what we were about to read irresistible… even Shakespeare, for a girl who had never completed one book this was really something. SO…the explanation given by the teacher may have helped make the book relevant to my life at that time and I would have been compelled to read it. Relevance to a teenager is everything
@Diane I am always explaining to people-adults, teenagers, my grandchildren-why a certain book is important or why I like it. Sometimes they even take my advice and read it. Likewise, when someone recommends a book to me, I will usually read it.
Diane, I liked your comment about the “Readers Digest version”. My son was/is extremely dyslexic and I had to read to him for much of his education (He was homeschooled). However, I happened to find some Classics Illustrated thrown in the garbage by a neighbor, and it awakened his interest not only in the “classics” but also in other books. He really loved “The Giver”. as well as Call of the Wild by Jack London (we read this together) Today his dyslexia has improved to the point that he is a fairly fluent reader and earns his living as a shipper/receiver. I am very proud of him and give him most of the credit because he took the opportunity he was given and ran with it.
If they require specific books I think the worst thing the teachers can do is overanalyze the books to death. It’s because of this there are some possibly great books that I refuse to read today. Hello To Kill A Mockingbird and The Grapes of Wrath! The teacher I has would overanalyze every sentence to the point where I hated the books. Just allow the students to read and enjoy the book and assign a book report at the end.
I wish I could give a great list for this post. But I’m going to say… I definitely would NOT want to be a HS literature teacher trying to figure out a book list today. The actual “list” would need to be sensitive to soooo many individuals, I’m not even sure it could work. I’m not sure how they can even read any literature in HS without it somehow offending somebody, somehow.
A strong school board is the answer to that problem. I had a parent file a complaint because my students were reading Maya Angelou’s I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings. She was offended at the 6 yr old’s description of being raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The book had previously been approved by the board, so no issue. I offered the student a different book, and the remainder of the class continued on with an incredible book. (This was a 9th grade honors English class, for the record.)
@Suzanne I read that book in 9th grade, and we had to have our parents sign a permission slip. That is a pretty horrible scene, and it definitely wasn’t something I had expected. I’m glad I read it, but I can understand that for some students, it could be traumatizing.
At my last school, about 90% of my students would have chosen nothing. And, no, that is not the title of a book. They just would not have read. And again, literature is a subject of instruction. We don’t wax eloquently about how we should let kids choose which algebra formulas to learn or which parts of human anatomy to learn in an anatomy class. Curricular standards are pushing fiction, poetry and drama out of English coursework anyway. Treating it as a subject for mere enjoyment only makes that seem a logical choice.
Just because you provide voice and choice to students doesn’t mean the rigor isn’t there as well. I teach a classics choice unit with my 9th graders. They choose the classic they want to read and the common core standards apply!
@Rebecca Obviously, then, they choose from your list. Then they did not have a completely free choice as this comment suggested. So your comment is moot. Regardless the hippie dippie “let’s all just love the book and talk about how it makes us feel” approach that dominated lit instruction for so long is what has made it expendable in the eyes of those in power over curricula. And most teachers still refuse to see that as is abundantly clear in this thread. Plus the “this is the greatest book ever and of course you will love it”. charade has convinced a million students they hate to read fiction. No one loves every book they pick up (this page proves that daily). The “teacher enthusiasm” nonsense in which we pretend we do and so do all good readers is so inauthentic. We need to help students find books they like and let them know it’s okay to not like a book but that sometimes for academic reasons, you have to read it anyway.
@Amy you must teach them how to choose based on their reading level, interest, and trying out different genres. In the school where I teach right now, almost 95% tell me they don’t like reading. How can we expect them to engage and become stronger readers if they hate it? I personally believe they need to discover the joy of it before analyzing and inferring and deeper level thinking can occur. Partnerships and discussion based book clubs are also great for this.
@Amy I am willing to have a discussion with other dedicated teachers who trust their students’ voices. IDK what school district you work for, but in my district ELA teachers and curriculum are valued! Also you cannot compare Algebra and science classes to ELA classes. That’s why I asked you about crack!
The first insult was calling someone else’s approach “hippie dippie.” Whatever that is supposed to mean. There was no reason for Amy to get rude and combative. Even her first reply was uncalled for.
There is nothing that can be taught with an old book none of the kids like that cannot be taught with a selection of books the kids enjoy reading. And of course they choose from a list. Duh. The teacher has to have read it.
@Linda I love it too. If you are ever in Monroeville, Alabama, go to the cemetery and see all the Lee family tombstones. Also go to the Court House and the vacant lot where Harper Lee and Truman Capote lived. The houses are gone. The stones of the foundation are still there.
I had the great opportunity to see the garden and house of Emily Dickinson in Amherst, Massachusetts as an adult; and I was surprised to see how much this deepened my appreciation of her work by seeing evidence that she actually existed as a real person.
@Ann I think so too! I saw Louisa Mae Alcott’s home. Thoreau’s Walden’s Pond. Then in England I saw Ms Potter ‘s Hillcrest Home. We went to Jane Austin ‘s home in Bath, England. In London we saw Churchill ‘s War Room, underground. That was interesting. We saw Wordworth’s Dove Cottage. In Hartford, Connecticut we saw Mark Twain ‘s home. We saw Harper Lee site of her house and Truman Copote. She wrote To Kill A Mockingbird. We went to the cemetery where she and her family are buried.
I think something like “The 5,000 Year Leap” by W. Cleon Skousen would be good for high schoolers to read. I know that there is some controversy about it, but I think it would be a good idea to educate students about what exactly the Constitution entails and the reasons/thoughts behind what is put in it.
They do, but this book goes more in depth than the social studies classes. It’s been over a decade since I was in high school, and I think they watered down history, social studies, etc quite a bit since then.
@Jane you’re right about that. It’s sad that bias is still a problem with a lot of books, etc that are used in schools. Each state/part of the country has different way of presenting history, etc. That’s why I think it’s important to introduce a wide range of resources and views on topics. Unfortunately, that doesn’t really happen a lot.
@Geni Okay then. I taught government. Neither my colleague who is still teaching it or I watered it down. But thanks for denigrating social studies teachers on a public forum.
@Amy I wasn’t talking about social studies teachers when I made that comment. I was talking more about the way the school curriculums have changed. I know that the teachers are doing a great job. It’s just that we live in a society now where so many things are taken out of books/school work because they don’t seem to be PC enough. That’s what my comment was referring to. Thank you for being a teacher and inspiring others to learn more about the world around them.
I think Zinn’s, “People’s History of the US” should be taught so they don’t just get the white male good ol’ boy perspective, but multiple lenses. I had some amazing Socratic seminars with students using this text.
Megan Henningsen I haven’t read this one yet, although I did pick up a copy not too long ago. I’ve heard wonderful things about it. Another book that I like is Seymour Morris’ “American History Revised.” I like reading about history and I never fail to learn something new from each book.
I’m trying to think of other books that I think might be good for high school students to read. I really like Malcolm Gladwell’s books. “Outliers” is a particularly powerful one that has a lot of things that are helpful in every day life.
The only book of his that I didn’t enjoy as much as “What the Dog Saw.” That was because it didn’t seem to have a central theme and was more of a collection of random essays/thoughts.
As a retired HS history teacher would go to our English department and get a reading list for my own personal use what a shame in 2 years how things have changed so sad
The Bell Jar, A River Runs Through It, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, Their Eyes Were Watching God, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, The Sun Also Rises, Slaughterhouse-Five… there are more, but these spring to mind first ?
One of my all time favorites. Steinbeck is one of my favorite California authors. I am a California Native. I just can’t help myself! I also love Jack London-another California boy.
@Ann yes, I always love the books more. I am downsizing from my home to a condo and just packed up my books, including my favorites-The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran, A Tree Grows In Brooklyn. To Kill A Mockingbird, Little Women, Steinbeck, London…
@Ann it’s nonfiction by Timothy B Tyson. In 1955, white men in the Mississippi Delta lynched a 14 year old black boy from Chicago. The protest of his murder became the foundation of the Civil Rights movement.
All the classics. We read about 40 of them in high school. Of course, that was the 1960s. And the American educational institutions have progressed so far (obviously dripping sarcasm). Really …. they should read young adult novels rather than Hemmingway, Hesse, Edna Ferber, Upton Sinclair …… really sad.
I’m a teacher and I’ll tell you much of what we teach is much harder than what we did when we were young. We teach 7th graders more math than most learned in high school in the 70’s.
To everything there is a season., Robert. Young adult lit speaks to the world our kids live in. This lit is very age appropriate and also thought provoking. Let’s make them readers now so that later they might take on the classics. 40 classics in high school equals 10 a year. You must not have done much more than read and discuss. Today’s students also analyze and synthesize by writing analysis papers and creating other forms of writing that relate. Volume doesn’t equal quality
I believe that the canon classics should be read. However, there needs to be an inclusion of authors other than “dead white males”. For example, “And then We Heard the Thunder” by John Oliver Killens”; Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” by Dee Brown; “Farewell to Manzanar” by Jeanne Wakasuki Houston; or “Almost A Woman” by Esmeralda Santiago.
The House on Mango Street, Night, The Great Gatsby, Speak, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, Long Way Gone, A Lesson Before Dying, Their Eyes Were Watching God, Catcher In The Rye, The Bell Jar, lots of Shakespeare…
The Hate U Give by @Angie
I think this should be required to be read by everyone! ❤️
?? yes!!
Just started audio today. I’m always driving my kids around so this is how I read half my books
Absolutely!
All of them. Every.Single. One
Animal Farm
From the list, my number one choice might be the Harry Potter series. There is a depth of substance that goes beyond the pop culture phenomenon.
Night by Elie Wiesel.
I remember reading this in high school. Some of the kids in my class would break down into tears as they tried talking about it and their tablemates would try to comfort them.
Anything about the Holocaust. This is something we all need to be reminded of.
This book made one of the biggest impacts on me in high school. If my kids are not assigned it I will still have them read it.
Yes!
Something kids can relate to…and enough of the stories where kids, dogs, and parents die on the poor protagonists all the time.
Agree! Hated Where the red fern grows, etc
@Julia yes! My 13yo had to read that last year. Why are they picking such depressing stories?
Where the Red Fern Grows isn’t depressing. It is sad, but it’s also sweet and elegant. It’s about growing up, facing the world outside your families protective sphere, and ultimately about the high price but greater reward of loving something other than ones self.
@Matthew nuance like that is lost on kids…to them it’s a story where the dogs die
Speak by Laurie Halse Anderson. Only book in high school where I felt like I could relate to the main character.
Just read that book and loved it!
@Katie Have you seen the movie? They did a pretty good job with it and Laurie got to have a cameo role in it.
What there’s a movie?? I didn’t know that
@Katie I think you can find the whole thing for free on Youtube.
It was a made for TV movie many years before Kristen Stewart played Bella. And a much more interesting character, too.
The Unwind Series is so powerful, the depth of discussion and analysis that could happen in high school would be amazing. The Red Rising is also another that could really be amazing. It has so much in it to dig into. So many characters for students to identify with and really explore.
I think it should be somewhat open to the student’s choice. Some kids aren’t going to enjoy the classics (I loved to read then, but I hated Ethan Frome that was assigned). I think it’s more important to stress a love of reading than focus too much on theme and symbolism, which I always felt should be open to interpretation.
Last of the Mohicans.
Speak!
YES YES YES
As a former high school English teacher, it is all about teaching the joy of reading. Teaching the students that it really doesn’t matter what they are reading just so they are reading and enjoying what they read
I’m also a former high school English teacher. I think that we need to teach our students that there are different reasons for reading. We are never going to find even one magic book that every single kid in the room loves. And we are literature teachers, not hobby teachers. So when I taught A Tale of Two Cities, we were learning about motifs, symbolism and Dickens and Victorian era literature. “The joy of reading” was not the sole purpose. And some kids just didn’t like Dickens. I don’t either. And I openly told them that I don’t, every time. But we can learn something about literature without enjoying the book.
Sorry totally disagree with my classes it was the joy of reading. My students did not need aA Tale of Two Cities or too many of the classics. It all depends on where your students are headed in life. To me it was the joy of reading and that is where I stand. I taught alternative high school students.
@Judy That’s how we end up with kids who won’t read. Check out Readicide.
@Amy beautiful reply. Class reads are for s completely different reason than what most kids will choose for themselves, and that is how it should be. Otherwise there will be no intellectual growth, and a shocking lack of knowledge of other times and places.
@Jean There was a generation of lit teachers who taught lit as nothing but reading for pleasure. I think it did their students a great disservice. Because when they didn’t enjoy the books given to them by those teachers, they concluded that they did not like to read. I was taught by those teachers. I did the whole “this is the best book ever and you will love it so much!” routine in my classroom for four or five years and then I realized what the result was. I started being honest. I would say to my kids, “some of you will love this; some of you won’t, but that’s okay and here is why we are reading it:”.
I went to a Catholic high school back in the mid-60s, where you’d think there’d only be a strict read-this policy. But that wasn’t always the case. I especially remember my all-time fav teacher (a nun) providing a list of books from which we were to choose for individual reading. I’m sure there were required books too, throughout JrHi (which was a public school for me) & SrHi – a couple Dickens, which I was not fond of, and some Shakespeare, another non-fav – but that list of options was great. It introduced me to some excellent authors. Of course, the “Young Adult Book Discussion Group” at the local library was even better (one novel that stands out for me from that Group was A SEPARATE PEACE, which I believe was a fairly new publication at the time). In my opinion, you need to do both things – show students that reading can be a joy, but also slip in some excellent literature. That “list of reading possibilities” for students might even be an extra-credit deal, although not sure that is workable in some classrooms. The bottom line is that the “trigger” for each person will be different because people are different, and teachers can only do the best they can – especially via showing an enthusiasm for reading different kinds of books, including stories that are also relevant to their lives.
@Marilyn I had one principal who wanted only lit that related precisely to the students’s own lives. We need to be very careful with that notion. Education should never be confined to looking into a mirror and so many people seem to think that in literature at least it should be. I’d bet a lot of money that most posters here have books on their favorites lists that relate not at all to their own lives in the tangible ways a lot of people think lit curriculum should.
@Amy I agree. I am only saying that this is one way to attract them to reading… then you get them to go beyond that so that they expand only what they read but ultimately their view of the world.
I teach middle school. There is so much amazing YA lit out now that kids can relate to that I don’t think the classics are necessary for middle school kids. Maybe a few in high school.
Yes!
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
I teach at a high school. The required novels are “Of Mice and Men”, “Lord of the Flies”, “To Kill a Mockingbird”, “Great Gatsby”, and some Shakespeare, short stories, and poetry. However, students are required to pick novels of their choice (off of a list of over 300 books and plays) to read outside of class. “To Kill a Mockingbird” is generally the favorite book of students.
I taught at a high school where the literature curriculum was similar, In addition to Mockingbird, Lord of the Flies and Gatsby,we were thorough with Shakespeare with most students reading Romeo and Juliet, Julius Caesar, and one other, ranging from Hamlet, Macbeth, or A Midsummer Night’s Dream. They also read Orwell, Homer’s Iliad, and sometimes mixed in A Tale of Two Cities, Cry the Beloved Country, and A Prayer for Owen Meany. What I have loved is years later running into many former students who tell me how much they value their background in literature!
Our sophomores read “A Midsummer Night’s Dream” and I joked that I would be hosting a Summer Solstice party at 5:45 a.m. on June 21 at a local park. I’ve been thinking about whether any of them are coming this week!
My sophomores also read Midsummer, Rand’s Anthem, usually A Tale of Two Cities (but we did not get it in this year due to flu x 2 for me!), and Sophocles’ Antigone. Repeaters read Kafka’s Metamorphosis instead of Anthem. I also have a require independent read each nine weeks, and I am thinking about increasing it to two reads a nine weeks. They are given a book list of around 500 books ranging from classics, to mysteries, sci-fi and fantasy, tough stuff, and non-fiction. That is where the truly get to explore the lit they love. The Unwind Series, Night, The Outsiders, Animal Farm, and 1984 among others in these comments are all there. This year, we are adopting a new textbook, and I am looking at making some changes.
As for Shakespeare, freshmen do R&J, sophomores Caesar or Midsummer, and seniors do Macbeth. My drama class has done Twelfth Night or Taming of the Shrew. Drama also does Medea or Oedipus Rex, Everyman, and a few others, usually ending with A Streetcar Named Desire.
@Jennifer We read The Outsiders in class in middle school and I really enjoyed the book and the class discussion ?
I taught The Outsiders in middle school and also Mid Summers. We acted out MSND and they loved it. It’s never too early to start Shakespeare.
Anything by Maya Angelou
Three Cups of Tea by Greg Mortenson.
12 Years A Slave by Solomon Northup.
Crank by Ellen Hopkins.
Anything that deals with real world societal problems and human differences to help prepare them for what they will find and encounter once they’re out on their own. That way they can develop healthy relationships and respect and they can better understand certain situations.
3cups would be good
I loved that book. It started out slow, but once I got into it I couldn’t put it down. The book was required reading for all freshman my first year in college and we even had Greg Mortenson speak on campus.
Yea for Crank!
My girls devour Ellen Hopkins’ books, and some of the boys do as well.
I agree with the comment what the kids want to read. Maybe compile a list from here or the 100 (minus 50 shades ?) and brief summaries and have the kids vote.
Speak by Laura Halse Anderson.
The Things They Carried is a big favorite. It’s tricky to teach, since the author classifies it as “a book about how to write a book,” but there are a million conversations, debates, and research papers just waiting to pop
Maus.
Persepolis is another good one .
Caitlin Alifirenka – I Will always write back
Alan Gratz – Refugee
Benjamin Alire Saenz Aristotle & Dante discover the secrets of the universe.
RJ Palacio – Wonder.
Refugee. I just read that a few months ago. Made a very big impact and I quickly bought a copy to keep on my shelf
Should any book ever be “taught” How about teaching the importance of reading and try to instill that in t he students. If grammar, spelling and writing skills don’t have to be taught (at least in some states) why should only certain books be taught
To kill a mockingbird and night by elite Wiesel
History should be taught through historical fiction. The classics should be introduced. Shakespeare should be watched. Literary terms taught from award winners. Then let students select from any of the above and contemporary fiction. Teach them a love of reading by not forcing entire books upon them.
Was just going to recommend historical fiction too! In addition to reading, generates interest and understanding of history. Books set in different culture than one’s own; geographic, ethnic, racial, religious, etc. Also biography/autobiography selection can be pretty exciting reading, spark career/field interest, provide more accurate look at things that sounded glamorous or exciting.
I had a really good history teacher in high school but I don’t think it really came to life for me until I read historical fiction. I think understanding the thoughts and values surrounding historic events are so much more important than memorizing dates and names.
The Bible
The Bible should be taught in church.
In an elective theology class. No one should be forced to read that unless you’re willing to introduce other religious texts from multiple religions.
Or maybe yearly required
The Sutras would be far more beneficial.
One of the best university level classes I had was The Bible as Literature. The professor made it very clear that it was not a class to promote religion and I remember we still had one or two who would try to sneak in their own denomination ‘s beliefs. It would take a strong teacher to keep it from becoming a religion class so I would be reluctant to suggest it.
I actually agree, along with other religious texts. So much literature is based on religious themes, even when they are not overtly religious. My AP English teacher had us read excerpts from the bible to help us understand universal themes used in (mostly Western) classic literature.
I read portions of the King James Bible as literature in AP English in my public high school in Maine in 1989-90. It was taught SO PROFESSIONALLY. Not at all as “you have to believe this,” but as “much of Western Literature and Art reference the Bible – this is literature you need to know if you study English Literature.”
My parents are very devout Catholics and actually had misgivings about me reading the King James Version (technically not recognized by the Catholic Church)!
How can you know why we say “she extended an olive branch” or “they treat him like he walks on water or something” or “oh lighten up. This isn’t the Suffering of Job” if you don’t know the story?
@Karen ha! I didn’t read you comment before I wrote mine! We are entirely in agreement!
There are many reasons to read The Bible.
Historical understanding and the lyrical Psalms.
I think there should be more modern books on the curriculum. The local high school is still teaching the same classics I read in school and while I appreciate the importance of many of those books, they also need more books that are based in the world teenagers are living in.
Definitely agree with you on this!
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Lord of the flies
To kill a Mockingbird
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I read about that in college and watched Miss Evers’ Boys. I can’t recall a time where I was totally disgusted with human logic in my life.
Annestasia Snyder While I think we need to teach the great things about America in grade school and high school, I think we must not hide from the atrocities that have been committed…..and continue to be committed.
I completely agree. I don’t believe the curriculum in schools exposes our students enough to the real history of this country. They try to hide the bad stuff while exaggerating the good.
@Annestasia And then when they grow up and find all the things that were concealed, they often feel betrayed enough to discount the good stuff about America.
I have thought about bringing in at least excerpts from Imbeciles about the Carrie Buck case to align with the Council of Eugenics in Anthem for that very reason. We cannot let these kids walk through the world with blinders on and thrust them into reality on graduation day.
@Jennifer Besides, much of this type of atrocity happens while they are still kids. Carrie was 17 when she was raped by foster parents nephew.
@Linda, this is why the kids are constantly checking out my tough stuff selections, which include Go Ask Alice and the works of Ellen Hopkins. The voice of the character has to be believable and relatable to the reader. Some of my kids have opened up in major ways by reading these books!
Def Night
I love teaching Night, kids really get into it
@Megan This book changed me. And I am still after all these years reading wwll history . Just finished The Nightingale . Oh my goodness, what a teach this would be♥️
And in reality , we are at the mercy of the teachers! I loved the years I homeschooled . Our reading curriculum was wide open .
But in some home school situations, they are pure propaganda.
My parents preferred that we not read anything written after about 1960. While there are some great older books, and I don’t want to belittle the classics, only reading older books can perpetuate things that ought not to be perpetuated.
@Rachel so true !!!
Well, I chose a program called Calvert. A brick and mortar school in Baltimore with the most amazing homeschool program. Rich in history and choice. My son, now in law school credits his 4th grade year with the beg of his love of history.
Linda, I actually think where your personal beliefs lie, there is your own propaganda. I forged my own path based on a ton of objectives. I have 2 successful children now forging their own lives ! One is a political consultant and the other a law student .
Speaking personally, I didn’t feel I was at the mercy of my teachers when I was in school. I read what I wanted to read. Assigned reading made me MORE of a reader, rather than less of one, because I read the books I liked on top of the ones that were assigned (happily, sometimes those two categories converged). The high school years were when I was discovering my adult tastes through writers like Franz Kafka, Umberto Eco, Jorge Luis Borges, Clarice Lispector, Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Peter Handke, Thomas Mann, August Strindberg, Suetonius, Virgil, Euripides, Edith Wharton, Sinclair Lewis, Albert Camus, Kurt Vonnegut, Eugene O’Neill, Don DeLillo, and many other writers we weren’t assigned. Through high school I was also introduced to Homer, Thomas Hardy, Chinua Achebe, Arthur Miller, Alan Paton, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Giovanni Boccaccio, Sophocles, Molière, and other favorite writers.
In my experience, the education I received helped mold my tastes just as much as my leisure time reading did. Often times I’d read something because it spun off from something I was assigned. I was so blown away by “The Odyssey” that I bought “The Iliad” and then “The Aeneid” by Virgil to continue the story. I liked “Oedipus the King” so much that I read the whole trilogy. Earlier this year, I also read “Sophocles II”, a collection containing his other tragedies, “Ajax”, “The Women of Trachis”, “Electra”, and “Philoctetes”, and that’s certainly due to the exposure to his great play in high school. I read the whole trilogy Achebe wrote (which continues with “No Longer at Ease” and “Arrow of God”), after I belatedly found out it was a trilogy because of how much I liked “Things Fall Apart”. Moreover, I was inspired to read other Nigerian writers like Amos Tutuola (“The Palm-Wine Drinkard”), Buchi Emecheta (“The Bride Price”), and Ken Saro-Wiwa (“Sozaboy: A Novel in Rotten English”). Just yesterday at the Friends of the Library book sale I bought two novels by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, another Nigerian writer. These are probably authors I wouldn’t have picked up on my own but for the prodding given to me by being assigned texts from outside my background in high school.
The Good Earth, for one.
Any book on basic, classical logic. Honestly, I wish I’d been taught some thinking rules BEFORE college.
Gamut’s Logic Language and Meaning would probably work.
Aristotle’s Poetics plays a role in my classes with rhetoric being discussed in English and speech and the theory of tragedy falling into drama and English.
Yes, this exactly. Luckily, I didn’t need it because of the fact that I was reading lots of philosophy, even academic philosophy, but it would have been useful and saved time for me to not have to puzzle this stuff out on my own. Being a young atheist before “New Atheism” was a thing, I was curious to see if my atheism were intellectually justifiable and the only way to investigate the subject at that time was to dive into the deep end of philosophy with books like “Critiques of God” by Peter A. Angeles (ed.), “The Miracle of Theism” by J. L. Mackie, and “Atheism: A Philosophical Justification” by Michael Martin. Martin’s book in particular was heavy on formal symbolic logic and reading it was something of a struggle.
howard zinn
Yes! I taught this at an arts school in Tacoma and still got in trouble ?
Mix it up! To present one focus area could kill the desire to read for pleasure. A challenge (classic), something funny, something non-fiction etc.,
Catcher in the Rye
The suggestions here lack strong African American titles. Zora Neale Hurston, Maya Angelou, Toni Morrison (though maybe wait until college for her). And American-Haitian writer Edwidge Danticat. Love her work.
I also love James Baldwin and Jamaica Kincaid ?
@Katy Thank you. I will check them out.
I think a lot of schools cover African and African diaspora authors already, even twenty-some years ago (which is when I was going to high school). I was assigned “Invisible Man” by Ralph Ellison, “A Raisin in the Sun” by Lorraine Hansberry, “Things Fall Apart” by Chinua Achebe, etc. And in addition to the full-length books we were expected to read, our American Literature textbook had numerous selections from Harlem Renaissance writers like Langston Hughes and Claude McKay, an essay from W. E. B.’s “The Souls of Black Folk” was included, as well as extracts from “Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass”, poetry from Phyllis Wheatley, etc.
And being a theater nerd, I was also reading lots of black playwrights on my own. I first discovered August Wilson in an anthology titled “Famous American Plays of the 1980s”, which included his play “Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom” (part of the Pittsburgh, or Century, Cycle of plays, which I subsequently devoured as fast as he was writing them — and, by the way, the adaptation of his play “Fences” is the best movie I’ve seen in years), read Amiri Baraka’s “Dutchman”, Wole Soyinka’s “Death and the King’s Horseman”, Anna Deveare Smith’s “Twilight: Los Angeles 1992”, Suzan-Lori Parks’ “Venus”, and saw productions of Parks’ “The America Play” and Don Cheadle’s “groomed (the unrefined technique)”. The latter is a very fine play but it’s now sadly forgotten, probably because it’s also a response to the L. A. Riots and therefore may not strike producers as timely. It was only four years past the riots when I saw the play but the memory of it is still green. Even his Wikipedia page doesn’t mention it!
A couple of teachers in my school have started teaching Yaa Gyaasi’s Homegoing and Colton Whitehead’s The Underground Railroad. The students have responded really well to these, especially Homegoing.
In my high school days we would read six books a semester plus do up to four book reports/analysis a semester. Each year we read a variety, and some are still on the reading lists at my grandsons’ school. Out of their classes, the favorite has been One Flew Over The Cuckoo’ s Nest and HUCK FINN!
1984
Farewell to Manzanar
A Long Way Gone
I’m a high school teacher and I believe all high school kids need to be exposed to coming of age novels-it’s what we are about. I love Huck and Holden. I’ve fought for Song of Solomon and last year I taught A Lesson Before Dying (amazing discussion and thinking about author’s purpose vs protagonist and character). Also my students love The Crucible which seems current and important to consider. We also dig intensely into The Things They Carried.
The boy in the striped pajamas
Fahrenheit 451. It’s timeless and pertinent to media consumption and freedoms in today world. Any age can relate.
A mentor once instructed me not to even think about it. Her words were something to the effect of “Don’t give them the gun to shoot you with.” We are in a very conservative area. I have fought to keep Anthem, because it is in my curriculum due to the kids wanting it to be in there. I have fought to keep Ellen Hopkins on my independent reading shelf, and Fahrenheit is there too. I encourage kids to read it, but I cannot do it as a class study with all of my kids, sadly.
@Jennifer, yes very sad. A true classic. Students are cheated when teachers are stifled from using quality, classic literature. You can only do what you can. Have a list of banned books on top of a pile on a counter top or your desk and some kid will see it accidentally!
I know some who make a shelf of banned and challenged books for Banned Books Week and put caution tape around them with “Do not read these!” signs. I may start that this year. That will get them reading! Forbidden fruit is extra tempting! ? Seriously, my parents all have to sign a disclaimer with their student before they can check things out of my library. The disclaimer says if they and/or the kid are offended by a selection, it is the kid’s responsibility to return the offensive book, get another one, and complete the assignment ON TIME. No excuses!
To Kill A Mockingbird
The bell jar
It used to be part of Sr High curriculum.
Fewer miserable and depressing books. More non fiction. More inspirational. How about Hidden Figures, The Night Circus, Much Ado About Nothing, Pride and Prejudice, Confederacy of Dunces, Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter
I totally agree with fewer miserable and depressing books. Why kids are forced to read Lord of the Flies still astounds me. It is one of a few dreadful books that are forced on young people. They should have some leeway as to what books they want to read. Maybe give them a list of 50 books and let them pick 10 to read (or whatever number of books comfortably can be accomplished in a school year).
@Pamela, standards guide what we can do. We have to teach different forms. I would love to just do novel studies. Unfortunately, curriculums are moving toward more and more excerpts. My colleagues and I agreed we will sit down together before school starts so we can each maintain the stories we believe it is important the kids read in their entirety.
@Jennifer I hear you. I teach too. Just thought of something cool that I developed that might appeal. Historical fiction. Short. Novels in a series of self contained vignettes in chapters. Companion books. A Long Way from Chicago and A Year Down Yonder by James Patterson. Set around the Depression in middle America. The former from a grandson’s perspective, the latter from a granddaughter’s — kids can choose. Serious and sometimes poignant but also very, very funny. The central character, Grandma, begs readers to explore morality — what does it mean to be a good person? Probably more middle school than high school. Wonderful as part of a project about the Depression.
I love teaching The Great Gatsby. But I would also love to teach A Prayer for Owen Meaney and The Perks Of Being a Wallflower.
Bear Town
Great Expectations.
All the Presidents Men
Life in a Jar: The Irena Sendler Project by Jack Mayer
I strongly think the books should reflect what they are learning in social studies. Of the books I had to read 50 years ago, I think Red Badge Of Courage, Scarlett letter, Return of the Native, James Fenimore Cooper, Shakespeare and The Odyssey should still be taught. I feel Animal Farm, Silas Marner, Death in the Family, On the Waterfront, and Of Human Bondage can be replaced with something else.
This is precisely why I have kept A Tale of Two Cities every time I have thought about swapping it with Great Expectations or Wuthering Heights. My tenth graders study World History, including the French Revolution.
@Jennifer I read Tale Of Two Cities in nineth grade in anticipation of reading it in tenth grade. Ended up in regular English where we read Death in the Family. Honors English read it and Greek plays and I’m not sure what else. Ninth grade was World History and we read in honors history Animal Farm, The Prince, The Communist Manafesto, and On the Beach since this was during the Cold War and Vietnam. In fact our World History book started with Japan and worked East from there. We never got further than Russia!
Esmeralda. The Absolutely True Diary of a Part Time Indian. Tulsa Burning. Even the Glass Mountain. Many kids are living with parents who are mentally ill. Need to read stuff that could help.
Beowulf in both Old English and modern translation. I had to struggle through it and so should every high school fereshman.
That reminds me, I need to get the Tolkien edition.
Beowulf was a waste of time for me.
I remember nothing of it but the headaches it caused me.
I didn’t read “Beowulf” until I was a freshman in college, but my instructor’s forte was Old English. It was a terrific experience listening to him recite “Beowulf” in Old English.
@Billy Have you seen the recording of Benjamin Bagby reciting “Beowulf” in the original Anglo-Saxon? If you haven’t, I’d recommend it. I believe you can get it from Netflix.
Yes, we listened to a recording. It is truly a work that is meant to be heard.
@Kevin No, I haven’t. Thank you for the recommendation.
Beowulf has always been part of the senior curriculum in my experience, but it is on my independent reading list.
Old English is pretty much a foreign language compared to Modern English. Are the students going to get language classes first so they’re able to understand the foreign words on the page?
@Annestasia There are dual-language editions of the book. I have a copy of the celebrated Seamus Heaney translation in a dual-language edition.
The copy we read had the Old English at the left page and modern translation on the right. We read the modern on our own for understanding the story and listened to the Old English to appreciate the poetry of the original.
So you never actually ‘read’ the Old English. And without the translation that someone already did for you, then you wouldn’t have been able to understand what was going on.
We used the Old English to learn about the peom’s structure…alliteration, rhythm, lenghts of each line etc. Listening to a book and reading a book have virtually the same benefits. We followed along with the book while listening. I found both the story and the “sound” of it captivating.
I love foreign languages and I often find myself listening to music in many different languages. I don’t understand much of what is said, but I can usually find a comment or two with a translation. The band Leaves’ Eyes has a song in Old English called Meredead.
Some good Canlit to include might be Barometer Rising by Hugh MacLennan and Fifth Business by Robertson Davies. I would also suggest Oliver Twist by Dickens.
Any, I don’t believe in banning books at all.
To Kill A Mockingbird, for sure.
My freshman year high school world literature teacher was better than any college or post-bachelor’s lit professor.
It’s not what you read as much as who is teaching you.
My high school English teachers were stars! So grateful for Miss Cunningham and Mr. Little at Newtown H S in Elmhurst NY.
The entire list of “banned” books.
The book thief
Yes! A marvelous book and even better as an audio book. The only book I’ve ever felt that way about.
The Book Thief
Without naming specific books, I’d like to see a greater emphasis on books that bridge the gap between young adult and adult fiction, because one of the drawbacks of assigning young adult books is that they’re rather homogeneous in their vocabulary and syntax. They don’t challenge kids that much, so as a result students get stuck at a reading level several grades below . I’d like to see kid-friendly classics being mixed in with more modern YA fare from about 11 – 13, which would gradually prepare them for having to read adult lit as high school and college students. It doesn’t necessarily matter what they’re reading, so long as it strikes the balance between being not difficult enough and too difficult. The problem with assigning nothing but YA is that publishers are incentivized to train YA readers to keep on coming back, rather than expanding their horizons to different kinds of books.
However, I’d like to see Ovid’s “Metamorphoses” taught in high schools. Aside from the fact that it’s an excellent work in its own right, it’s also the basis for an extraordinary amount of subsequent literature, art, opera, etc. I think a lot of people are handicapped when reading great literature by not having a foundation in classical myth. And if “Metamorphoses” isn’t taught, they should at least teach Thomas Bulfinch’s “The Age of Fable” or Edith Hamilton’s “Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes”. But Ovid is probably best, because it was largely through him that the great writers of the past became acquainted with Greek mythology.
Well … I read Ovid’s Metamorphoses in high school … in Latin.
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
Oh my yes. The book not the movie
I’ve never seen the movie. Not sure I realized there was one.
The movie is heartbreaking. Watching the boy crawling under the fence and knowing what was going to occur pulled at me. Wanted to reach out to him.
As a high school English teacher, I would add a few points for consideration: there are very few schools that leave the choice of which pieces to read up to individual teachers. They teach what is on the state or local curriculum. Even wealthy schools still read actual texts and they cost $$. We can’t simply go out and order whatever book we feel like. Next for those who (like my students ) complain that all the books we read are depressing…People don’t generally write novels when life is going swimmingly. It is when the world crashes around us that humans write to explore life’s great mysteries and tragedies. Additionally, we try to select books that require a skilled guide. No kid needs a mentor to read most YA fiction, but it takes a well-trained person to introduce the inexperienced to Shakespeare or Dickens. One person’s enjoyment of a piece doesn’t necessarily qualify it for classroom study: at least two books recommended on this thread are either wildly historically inaccurate and/or the author’s veracity in reporting events has been debunked. Remember too, all who want English teachers to teach history, that we are not history teachers. We do teach setting and context, of course, but our primary role is to teach how to develop critical thinking skills by practicing how to read, write, speak, and listen. Having said that, I try to give opportunities for free reading choice in class. The majority of my students (advanced and not so advanced sophomores) don’t read. They don’t have the ability to sit quietly in repose and truly read without being distracted endlessly by their phones. This is, alas, as true for my honors students as for any student. I encourage all the readers on here to adopt a few young people beyond your own family to share the love of reading with! Ask your non-reading friends to help us develop a love of reading that provides a model for our communities. We are seriously in danger of becoming a culture that does not read.
Amen!
My high school never taught Shakespeare or Dickens and I took advanced lit classes.
My daughter took AP English and we signed off for the teacher to go outside the core curriculum… I was all for it!!! She got to read a few selections that where thought provoking and made her uncomfortable…. it was a great class.
And then I forgot to write what I DO teach to sophomores: The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, The Taming of the Shrew, Lord of the Flies (personally hate its darkness but it’s brilliantly written), A Tale of Two Cities, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Anthem.
@Eileen, I am impressed you can get all that in with your crew! Do you not do any excerpts?
@Jennifer That is with the advanced class. DJMH and Anthem are both very short. We read all of TTOTS in class.
Eileen Connelly, ah. I yearn for an advanced class that I can do that with! I am in a small rural school. My drama class does Shrew or Twelfth Night while my sophomores do Midsummer. The sophomores also do Anthem, A Tale of Two Cities, and Antigone in their entirety along with required independent reads each nine weeks.
@Jennifer There’s irony. We were never taught “A Midsummer Night’s Dream”, but the drama class produced it when I was a sophomore (I played Duke Theseus). We were only taught the tragedies: “Romeo and Juliet” in 9th grade, “Julius Caesar” in 10th grade, and “Hamlet” in 12th grade. However, we did get assigned “Twelfth Night” in 7th grade because a local theater company was doing a production, which we were taken to see after finishing the play.
Kevin Gassaway, several years ago the Folger Shakespeare Library did a major survey about which seven plays students needed to be exposed to. That was when I changed my strategy and asked to do Midsummer and Twelfth Night with sophomores instead of Caesar. Curriculum changes have reduced me to one Shakespeare as of late for English, sadly. The Folger published a wonderful series of books full of lesson ideas for the seven works. The series is called Shakespeare Set Free. The seven plays kids need to be exposed to according to the survey’s results were: Romeo and Juliet, A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Twelfth Night, Othello, Macbeth, Hamlet, and Henry IV Part I.
Personally, I believe it is important for the kids to be exposed to his comedies and his tragedies. The kids usually are surprised how much they can relate to the comedies – especially Midsummer with the four lovers! I literally had a girl scream it was her life! Sadly, I am not kidding. Mere weeks before we started reading it her parents had called the cops after she snuck out with a guy they did not approve of, which was a super Egeus move. Several of my kids said Midsummer was their favorite piece we read all year this term, but I made them get up on their feet. Shakespeare is to be acted, not listened to on a record or read while sitting in a desk bored. Some may differ on that. Yes, the kids butcher some of the language. Yes, it is painful to hear at times, but I think it is important for them to read it. It helps them find the rhythm of the lines and get lost in the beauty of them.
In drama we have to talk about adaptation of a work from one form to another. Last year’s group wanted to read Twelfth Night after I told them the Amanda Byrnes movie She’s the Man is a riff on it. When this year’s crew chose The Taming of the Shrew, we looked at 10 Things I Hate About You.
Oh, and it blew their minds that Batman (Christian Bale) was Demetrius in one of the film adaptations of Midsummer we looked at in English. That is always fun.
For a homeschooling mom, this is great info. I am constantly looking at book lists trying to decide what are the most important books to cover with me boys. They are just starting high school and the lists differ so much that it is madding.
Absolutely, and thank you. My AP students read at least four books every year that I personally disliked, but the College Board didn’t ask my opinion and those books are considered classics. I still don’t like Heart of Darkness or Passage to India or Tess of the D’Urbevilles or Moby Dick, but my kids never knew that – I hope. The choice of texts, as you have said, was largely limited by the state curriculum or by the AP curriculum, but I suspect you and I did the same thing and brought in one or two pieces we really loved.
Here is my problem with the books you mention, they are all by white people. We are possibly becoming a Nation who does not read because teachers follow the white canon and blame school boards and administrators instead of championing novels and nonfiction by and about the faces staring back at us when teach. I teach History and English and my school district encourages us to collaborate with each other. Teaching novels as close to the time period that the history teachers are teaching. Diversity in novel choices has hooked more of my students to read than slogging through Dickens or Shakespeare. When my students see their faces in the novels I teach and the history we explore they feel a part of history not a sightseer of it and want to explore their history through reading.
@Lisa, I can understand that concern. Each school is different. However, I am in a district that is 98% white in the rural south. I have my diversity in my independent reading library in a major way, and I try to be mindful of that when picking selections. What I can teach, as noted by another above, is limited by what I have available. If I want a classroom set of something, I foot the bill for it. We are adopting new books this year, so you have given me something to think about as I plot next year’s course. Thank you.
@Lisa We have been working on that! Too many dead white European men! We’ve added Kindred by Octavia Butler and we do a close read of “Letter from a Birmingham Jail.” I do A Raisin in the Sun with my regular level kids (and squeeze it in if I can with the enriched groups).
@Jennifer even a majority white should dig into a novel that can expand their awareness of the world at large. When I want classroom sets of a book I create a project on DonorsChoose. I also have created my own classroom library with my own money. I am very lucky because I teach in an alternative high school the number of students I teach is much lower than colleagues in “regular” high school. May I suggest Mother of Rain by Karen Spears Zacharias set in Tennessee during the 1940s. It may have the face of your students in it. There is another novel set in Florida that my class enjoyed Slow Way Home by Michael Morris. Both are diverse for my students as the protagnists are white. Expansion of their experience can be diverse which includes the two novels above, my students are primarily Hispanic and they enjoyed Slow Way Hime because the experiences of the child in the book mirrored some their own experiences we had great discussions. I’m not backing down on my belief that all faces should be represented in the novels we present to our students. Sometimes their faces aren’t there, but who they are is.
We’re not asking teachers to implement this stuff, we’re dreaming that school districts would.
@Lisa, I have tried donors choose and had zero success with it. I have taught Raisin in the Sun, To Sir with Love, letters and speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr., the Harlem Renaissance, etc. I never said I taught exclusively white authors. That notion is ridiculous to me. We read things with viewpoints very different from their own as much as we can. I too have created a classroom library with my own books. It takes up three big bookcases, and that does not count my classroom reading books. I am all about universal ideas and themes, and I am a big believer in presenting them. It is just challenging to do at times when you have 60-80 kids in a course and that course is one of four different courses you teach.
@Arpie, most teachers share that dream, I would say.
Thank you for teaching ❤️
A variety of different contemporary books as well as the classics. It’s sometimes (often) hard to distinguish the YA books from adult books. The Book Thief is a good example of this. There are so many worthwhile books for every age.
Books that really engaged me in high school:
the last book in the universe
I never promised you a rose garden
Go ask Alice
Star girl
The hobbit
A great and terrible beauty trilogy
The secret garden, a little princess
Books by Todd strasser
Books by se Hinton.
Books by Scott westerfeld
Books by tamora pierce
Peter Pan and Alice in wonderland and through the looking glass
The looking glass wars
If you can introduce kids to books that don’t worry about challenging them and just let them enjoy reading, they may just read forever. And that’s the best thing you can learn at school—to love to read, cause you’re gonna forget at least half of everything else.
I did not like most classics in high school and resented having to read them, despite loving to read. In college and beyond I’ve learned to love them but I was stubborn then.
I loathed: death of a salesman (still can’t stand this one)
I didn’t like flat land. Or a raisin in the sun.
I liked a separate peace. Of mice and men. ferenhiet 451. Huck Finn. Romeo and Juliet. Damien. I wish we’d done more Shakespeare. I feel like you really have to teach Shakespeare, you can’t just read it, the language is too different and the references too obscure. But once you get it, it’s brilliant and really fun to read.
Ditto on Go Ask Alice. ( it scared me way back when)
Kids still read it, and I call Crank its contemporary counterpart.
The Autobiography of Malcolm X.
A number of books by Maria Padian address issues that young adults face.
I read Wrecked aloud to a class of seniors after she came to our school and did a reading from it. Taking the time to read it aloud and discuss it as we went along was one of the most powerful things I’ve done, ever, as an educator.
My 7th graders read her first book, Brett McCarthy, in literature circles. Outgrowing childhood friends is a theme that they related to and were glad to discuss.
A few plays by Shakesphere…To Kill a Mocking Bird…some Historical fiction…or fiction about other countries….Diary of Anne Frank…
Books that show the TRUE history of the US and other countries, instead of the sanitized version taught today.
I have gotten many chapter books for my students. I have taught cinder by marissa Meyer, Legend by Maria Lu, Maze Runner by James Dashner, Percy Jackson and the lightning thief by rick riordan, The house on mango street by Sandra Cisneros, and many others. I have expanded the kids worlds and hopefully gotten them interesting in audiobooks as well. I like to have the kids listen to the books.
Between the World and Me
See Penny Kittle’s thinking on this and her list. She is an amazing “guru.”
Silent Spring and Collapse. Both make you ponder.
I haven’t read Collapse, but Silent Spring was amazing and eye opening
Banished Children of Eve and Charming Billy, both tell the truth of treatment of Irish immigrants who came fleeing the famine by Americans.
The Chosen, by Chaim Potok, brought the Jewish world to my almost exclusively white Anglo-Saxon Protestant students. James Baldwin’s Fire Next Time opened up a new world, too. Their Eyes Were Watching God, by Zora Neale Hurston, was always a favorite. Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice showed us that we’re all human.
Well, not anything with common core, that’s for sure
Well I disagree as the Common core suggests The Odyssey, MacBeth, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice and To Kill a Mockingbird. And those are just a few of the outstanding books recommended by CC.
My problem is not those Common Core suggestions; it’s the timing of them. You cannot convince me that sophomores get as much out of Macbeth as juniors and seniors.
@Nanci that argument could be made for almost any book…as a teacher and someone who majored in English I think introducing Shakespeare in some form from late elementary to middle school has real value. Also in my opinion MacBeth‘s themes are accessible to most 10th graders.
Les Miserables
Les Miserables
Sound and the Fury – great one but honestly too difficult for lots of folks to attempt outside of class. I read it it school and had a hard time with re-reading!
It’s too complex for most highschool students. But totally agree that it requires guidance.
The Warmth of Other Suns –
All of them
The Handmaid’s Tale, The Bluest Eye, The Chocolate War, To Kill a Mockingbird, Speak, Of Mice & Men, Hamlet, Julius Cesar, & Othello, Joy Luck Club, The Book Thief, 1984, Raisin in the Sun. Books that expose kids to different cultures, life experiences, & perspective. The whole idea of Walk Two Moons..spend some time in someone else’s story & it connects you to that person ❤️
Loved the Bluest Eye and Sula!
The Bluest Eye made me cry Hard to do
Color of Law
I bought that this summer and hope to read it soon. Suspect I’ll agree with you after what I’ve already read about it.
A Thousand Splendid Suns By Khaled Hossein.
Instead of specific titles, I think they should choose genres and give the kids a choice of ten titles within the genre. More often than not, teachers assign what they enjoyed or what they have taught into dust.
I have seen the McGuffy readers. Maybe use those
Those are kind of dated, don’t you think?
“A is for Adam” and followed with a sobering couplet: “In Adam’s fall, we sinned all.” I don’t think so.
Well they are very advanced for reading skills , use essays by pope, Emerson etc in the 6th grade reader
I think that teachers should throw out the lists they have that include dead white men authors and create a list of books that are more contemporary and meaningful to kids today!
The dead guys need to be introduced but not completely read. Those books become the ones we go back to as adults to appreciate (or not) as adults.
I see your point, but I’m not going to rule out an amazing book or play just because it was written by a dead white man. Over the years I’ve had so many students (students of various races and genders, by the way) inspired by Hamlet, The Great Gatsby, and A Tale of Two Cities. However, I do agree with you that our reading lists should absolutely evolve to include more diverse perspectives.
I can’t see completely tossing out any book written by a dead white man, but we should include authors like Jean Toomer, Zora Neale Hurston, Toni Morrison, Maya Angelou, etc. The problem with teaching literature is there are so many books one should read but not nearly enough time to read them. Therefore The Canon dictates the most important books based on theme, writing style, etc. The problem with The Canon is the dead white men who decided which books should be on the list. The Canon needs to expand.
Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand
I am Malala
There should be a balance. Perhaps a grade wide required reading of one book for all classes and teachers to pull lessons from that changes every year. Something that is popular in society that year. For the year a classic play, classic novel, classic poetry sample, the same in modern, a book the teacher is passionate about, a controversial or banned book, a children’s book, and each student should pick a book they like with no restrictions to “sell” to the class.
Great idea. Maybe kids wouldn’t be so turned off to reading if they read books as you’ve suggested.
All books
8th grade and my best school experience ever. Teacher gave a list of well respected books and said that for each book read and reported on we would receive a little extra credit. My best grades ever…and I still remember some of the books.
ALL…especially Farenheit 451
Shoot! I didn’t think of that on my list- love that book.
Question. I am thinking of Socrates here. The idea of teaching a book is problematic. It is the other way around. My intent here is to succinctly circumvent (perhaps worthy) debate and give a shout out to the art of the written word.
As a long-time teacher of English ( 46 years and counting) my experience is that most books are ruined by teachers who insist on teaching one “special” book. All readers need choices and the affirmation that reader response is personal; no book is “the one” and every reader’s opinion of a book is the correct one.
Couldn’t agree more! I teach English through the workshop method where students choose their books. They read independently, in book partners, or book clubs. The learning is focused on reading strategies, writing/talking about the books. I usually do an all class novel once a semester once I know the class’s interests and needs. I’ve found that the traditional way of teaching English turns kids off to reading and this way turns them into passionate, engaged readers!!!
Ann Petersen and @Megan wish I had you as my teachers long ago.
Thank you, Patricia Naqvi. Obviously, I could have retired a long time ago (Actually, I’m a Professor Emeritus) but I love to teach and I love helping students to realize that they CAN write and that good writers are good readers and good readers are good writers.
As a former English teacher, the first thing I would say is what another teacher said above: we don’t have the luxury of teaching absolutely anything we want or having an unlimited budget to hand every kid the exact book he or she wants to read. Additionally, the majority of my students would tell you that their first choice of book is to not read a book at all.
I take them to the library and persist with each kid until we kind that one book that will turn them on to reading. I take it as a challenge and I’ve only had a handful that I haven’t been able to break! It’s why I teach what I do!
When my kids were little, our rule was that each of them could get a book anytime we were in a Bookstore When they were older and always had friends with them, I extended my rule to include the friends who were with them. I was a very popular mom, especially when we lived in towns with small bookstores. I miss the independent bookstores. Our kids and grandkids are all voracious readers.
My 7th grade teacher . Mrs. Veece
I think poetry should be taught–poetry that is not oblique or obscure. Poetry by people like Frost, Dickinson, Mary Oliver, Gwendolyn Brooks and many others. Just 4to 14 lines on which to focus. It will help to develop a sense of the language and the playfulness it can have.
Include some poems to make them think such as “Dulce et Decorum Est” and “What They Did Yesterday Afternoon” by Warsan Shire. Avoid all poetry books with “staff written” poems. I’m a retired banker and bookseller so I’m talking through my hat here, but I have talked with young people about falling in love with poetry by simply showing them how to read it. Mostly they want to either sing song it or pause like there’s a period at the end of each line. No wonder they don’t understand. And, if you want to give them one full of allusions and imagery like “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock” at least give them a hint that he’s talking with his cat. OK…removing my know-nothing teaching hat now.
My dad loved poetry. When I was a kid I remember him reading some of Poe’s poems to us. I always enjoyed “Annabel Lee,” “The Bells,” and “The Raven.” He had a wonderful speaking voice and would use it so effectively to enhance the readings. I remember he used different voices for each of the different types of bells, which always made it fun and a joy to hear.
Loretta Murphy Stotter, I love Poe. I am going to fight to keep “The Masque of the Red Death” even though it is not in the book we are adopting. I get Usher and Raven instead. I will probably do them as well, but my reading of Masque on Halloween with special lighting and connections to The Phantom of the Opera (novel and musical) has been a Halloween tradition for my sophomores for over ten years. I intend to keep it. It is something kids still talk about to me years after they were in my class. The Monkey’s Paw isn’t in the new book, so Usher and Raven can go there. Plus, I use Dickens’ pet raven Grip to connect him and Poe as contemporaries..acquaintances as well but not friends per se.
@Patricia I teach “dulce” in my world history class along with “Flanders fields.”
“Invictus” is painted on the inside of my door.
@Ryan I thank whatever Gods there be for my unconquerable soul!
@Jennifer, that all sounds wonderful and very exciting for the kids.
James Baldwin’s I Am Not Your Negro
Howard Zinn!
When teaching WWII “UNBROKEN”
Our history teacher showed the kids the film toward the end of the year, and the kids came back to me for the book. ?
In the book Laura H explained that teachers of history knew this was a problem, WWII is / was much more then D-Day, Hitler and Germany. Another example: the history of Truk Lagoon vs the USAF and U.S. Navy. Black chapter in U.S. history!
Laura Hillenbrand wrote the book Unbroken
Another book UNDERGROUND RAILROAD Author Colson Whitehead
The Making of Donald Trump author David Cay Johnston would be a good read for a high schooler
Parenting 101
Oh my! As a high school English teacher I find these suggestions…interesting ?
As a retired school librarian I tried my best to get the English teachers to try different ways to get kids to want to read.
Graphic novels have been a big help in this lately in my classes. You just have to be sure the writing is of good quality and the content is age appropriate. Lots of my kids are into anime, so manga is a natural fit.
Amen from a fellow English teacher. I am consistently surprised when people believe we just get to choose whatever material we want.
Banking, especially about credit cards
There should be a whole class designated to finance….bank accounts, interest, investing, retirement, checking and credit cards
So here’s a question, and I mean this in a completely snark-free way: Is it valuable to a student’s education to read an assigned book they might not like or agree with? Or is it better to allow students to choose whatever they want to read? (OK, 2 questions actually)
There is value in both. Sometimes you get lessons you didn’t expect from books outside of your comfort zone. Also there are skills to learn from assigned books. But doing a free choice also has merit. It is important to have both. Kids need to read things they are assigned as well as choices. There is always a kid who finds a favorite when you assign a novel. I read Cinder by marissa Meyer with mostly boys and they LOVED it and they never would have chosen it.
Both. Assigned books are important to teach students reading comprehension and content and HOW to take in a novel so they can then take one in on their own.
The dead guys need to be introduced but not completely read. Those books become the ones we go back to as adults to appreciate (or not) as adults.
both.
How do we know if we agree with a book, if we don’t read it?
I’m glad to see there’s support for both. It’s easy these days to live in a self-curated world among people and ideas and experiences of our own choosing. It’s important to get out of the echo chamber and be exposed to new worlds, even if we think it’s a chore.
Sandy, I have to respectfully disagree with allowing students to read excerpts of dead white guys. Reading bits and pieces takes away the integrity of the work and doesn’t really show the book as a whole or allow the reader to experience it as the writer intended. It’s kind of like having students study famous works of art or sculpture by only looking at 2 square inches of the piece.
Great point about getting out of your own echo chamber
Agree with @Katie and @Stephanie. Journaling with students about books of choice or facilitating book blogs of choice books is valuable. Yet group discussions on common reads can be so beneficial.
That is why I love Socratic Seminars! I also like Wikis, but I didn’t use mine last year due to the fact lots of kids did not have net access at home.
The Things They Carried and Home Before Morning–both real perspectives on Vietnam
a brief history of ALL relgions
At least one book per year should be the student’s choice (with teacher approval).
I require my students to read one independent book per month with approval (7th grade). They get some time to read in class daily and write me a letter about a literary element in their book at the end of each week.
@Stephanie I wish my kids middle school English teachers required this assignment! Not only would it expose them to new books/authors/genres, but it helps build the habit of reading. Love this idea!
I do literary letters too! Also, have a book matrix where they are required to read in different genres through out the year…
I think at least one book a semester should be the student’s choice and I was an English major for myundergrad degree and did teach high school English for a while.
All of them!
Everyone should have books by Wallace Stegner and Willa Cather on their reading list
The Killer Angels
I love teaching To Kill a Mockingbird. So many lessons.
So many quotes to live by..Atticus is such a beautiful example for us all.
Atticus and Scout are my two favorite characters.
Well reading is a reflection of culture and history. As a former teacher of literature, I think it’s not so much about choice of what students like to read but learning about historical perspective and exchanging opinions and creating understanding and insight. Jayne
Ishmael; To Kill A Mockingbird; Kindred; Tale of Two Cities; The Help; The Kite Runner; Harry Potter; Anne of Green Gables; The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks.
My grandson read The Last Lecture by Randy Pausch this year. He is not a reader at all but this book had an impact on him. I agree with Lee Kupperman that exchanging opinions, creating understanding and insight, and thinking for themselves are very important for high school readers.
Shakespeare, classic poetry, Dickens, Chaucer, Hawthorne, Doyle, Verne, Dumas, Tolkien, Cooper I think we need to teach the classics again. I love Harry Potter but language wise it’s 5 th to 6 th grade. We need to expand minds and teach skills. There is a desperate need for rhetoric and to teach kids classic english. Shaw had a point in Pygmalion, How you speak read and write determines social class, by not teaching our children proper English , we are making it harder for them to escape and better themselves
I always hated it when the teachers “assigned” books to read. A list at least to choose from would be good.
Whatever books they want so long as they are challenged and taught to think critically.
In a classroom there must be continuity for a teacher to grade and control. Many things can go on at the same time especially individual reading.
I like the idea of whole classes reading the same book to discuss and analyze but I also like choice. Maybe at the beginning of class they could vote on a few from the lists of books the school has in sets.
District curriculum dictates what books are to be read as a class. When my 6th grade teacher decided to ditch the basil readers for everyone reading Men of Iron by Howard Pyle, a Reader Digest series that later would become SRA, and journals on our free reading, she was threatened with dismissal for not following the curriculum. She was the best teacher and we learned so much from her but no school district will allow experimentation. Part of my frustrations as a teacher. ?
@Roberta, it really depends on the district. I have worked in three in my career. The first was very flexible, the second basically handed me a syllabus and informed me that was what I would teach period, and the third is somewhere in between – open to change, trusts the teacher, but also concerned with how parents will react. If you can prove to them why the change should be made with research, the admin in district three will usually agree to it. At district two, it turned out they did not have classroom sets of Shakespeare’s Othello, which was on my syllabus! That was about the only input I got to give. We ended up doing Midsummer and Twelfth Night in its place after I discussed it with the head of our department.
If the school has classroom sets to use! Some schools do, but most do not in my experience.
I grew up in the Detroit Public School system. Our teacher bought the books from Scholastics for us so we could highlight pages. Hopefully she got a teacher’s discount. I was an elementary school teacher. My first district required we turn in weekly lesson plans to the office besides yearly and monthly overviews. I doubt anyone does that because I have walked into classrooms as a sub and there is nothing, not even a personal plan book!
Roberta, quite often teachers are urged to keep their plan books and grade books with them in and out of school in case of emergency. I know that it is second nature with me to grab a grade book/playbook before I leave my room for the day because that has been ingrained in my brain.
@Cara you can understand the frustration for me as a sub with no clues. Thankfully most teachers post the day’s schedule on the board before they leave so I have that. I had one second grade class where we spent most of the day doing Weekly Readers and my games because not even the other teachers had a clue as what was happening. I also had one 6th grade teacher who left me the same lesson plan 3 times! At least I knew the students and the school so I could wing it but I refused further assignments for this teacher.
@Roberta– I definitely understand. As a teacher I usually leave lesson plans, but if not I kept a box with sub plans written on it. There were about 100 different worksheets run off for the class that I knew ahead of time they could do.
@Cara I had my reproducible books, art projects, and challenging games with me all the time. I have given most of my stuff away now that I’m retired.
move from a Eurocentric curriculum to highlight library giants from other lands https://www.literacyworldwide.org/get-resources/reading-lists/young-adults-choices-reading-list
Ann Petersen In this case, the “other lands” would seem to be the United States. I looked at the PDF of the 2018 books and there were only four authors on the whole list who weren’t American: Garth Nix (Australia), Sandra Uwiringiyimana (DRC), Carrie Mac and Leslie Livingston (both Canada). Marie Lu was born in China, but she was only 5 when her family moved to the United States, and she’s American by nationality. “Young adult” books as a separate genre is largely an innovation of American publishers, so lists of YA are going to be biased toward American perspectives and writers.
Also:
“The books are selected by the readers themselves, so they are bound to be popular with middle and secondary school students.”
This is the same reasoning that would say because “Fifty Shades” was a bestselling series that everyone in this book group is bound to like it. It’s really striking to me that they tout this as a selling point without thinking of the fact that there may be a reason why we don’t let children set the curriculum in other classes — because they don’t have the experience to be good judges of what they need to know — and applying that same logic to the present case. If this had been the approach when I was in high school, we would have been reading the “Animorphs” series and I would have hated my English classes. It is a bit patronizing to be fobbed off with books just because they have teenage protagonists or because other teenagers supposedly like them. But it is a great scam for the publishers. By constantly renewing the lists of must-have books, they obviate the possibility that schools will choose public domain books that can be bought cheaply from discount publishers, and the possibility that the book will be so well-known (even if still in copyright) that used or library copies are plentiful or that many parents will have copies in their own possession. That was what happened when my school assigned its read-it-because-it-has-a-teenager-in-it book, “The Catcher in the Rye”. I borrowed my parents’ copy off the shelf at home. Instead, they’re trying to foster constant demand in schools as well as at home for an endlessly renewable stream of recent copyrighted works.
Thank You for Arguing by Jay Heinrichs. Students need to learn the art of persuasion and debate. They need to form opinions based on facts that they have researched from reputable sources. They need to learn to listen to all sides of an argument with respect for the speaker, especially if the speaker’s opinion is different from their own. Students need to learn to think for themselves
Any book from the 20th. century down. Some of the best are To Kill a Mockingbird, A Scarlet Letter, The Diary of Ann Frank, Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Little Women, and anything from Shakespeare and Edgar Allen Poe. Are just a few I can think of first. But home economics books would by great too. To teach how to make things; like sewing/ cooking books. ??
I thought about this as I was reading Laurie Halse Anderson’s, “Speak”, about date rape.
The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead
One of the great books I ever read. Colson Whitehead uses words and imagery like an artist using paints. I absolutely loved this book!
The Book Thief.
Wonder
To Kill a Mockingbird, for sure.
It was taught in my english class in HS
@Irene I read it in 8th grade. Voluntarily. Never was taught in my high school. Read it many times over the years, always something new in it to discover and appreciate.
Go Set A Watchman was a book Harper Lee wrote before To Kill a Mockingbird, kept in a vault for many years. She was deemed to be coherent enough to approve the release of the manuscript. I found it even better than To Kill a Mockingbird. She was a neighbor of Truman Capote in the south. She helped in reading some of his manuscripts, and some speculate that she did some of his writings??
@Irene I read it, too. Makes a good companion piece. I don’t know if she wrote for Capote but I’ve read she did nearly all the research for In Cold Blood, while he did the interviews with Dick and Perry.
The Book Thief
Les Miserables, Little Women, Catcher in the Rye, The Painted Veil, The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle, Wuthering Heights, Jane Eyre, To Kill a Mockingbird, Greek Classics, Dickens Classics, Grapes of Wrath, Of Mice and Men, Shakespeare’s plays, Diary of Anne Frank, Brave New World. Too many to mention! The list goes on and on!
I would add Jane Austen to the list.
@Loretta Yes!
I remember way back into freshman year of high school we had a list of 10 books to choose from and had to read at least two of them during summer. That’s when I read A Wrinkle in Time and Jane Eyre for the first time. It kept my love of reading strong. Students definitely need more choices rather than being told they have to read a specific book.
April, I agree with you.
I just read a new novel that I felt should be part of our fabric. Required reading, rotated into classics…. There There by Tommy Orange.
For non-fiction, “Where Am I Wearing” is a great look at other countries and those who make our clothing. It’s by Kelsey Timmerman.
I like Things Fall Apart for senior English.
‘Night by Elie Wiesel
I think the love of reading should be encouraged – my English teacher used to give me Stephen King and sci fi.Not on the syllabus but it would be good to have something off left field maybe?
Personally, I think “teaching” any book destroys the joy of reading.
Personally, I agree. Though…I have, a time or two, read other’s thought on books I have enjoyed and learned things I had failed to grasp as well.
@Brian I love discussing books!
Ahhhh!!! Wait! I was a middle school literature teacher for many years. Teaching kids how to approach good writing, how to unlock it, how to not be intimidated by it, how to model it in their own writing…this is exactly what was done for me when I was in school.
I love lit classes. As a comp sci major in the 80’s I took literature for all of my electives. I could never have understood 100 years of Solitude without my literature teacher. I love discussing meanings and writing. I grew as a reader and a person.
My 6th grade teacher really turned me on to reading…we read Dracula as a class and I’ll never forget the experience!
@Rosemarie Helping students unlock meaning is preferred to “teaching” a book. I’m referring to methods.
If they could treat it like a “book club” and let the kids share what they personally took away from the story, then I fully support “teaching” with books. If, however, they test you on whether or not you understood the points that they were trying to push…I have a problem with that.
I learn so much more from good, quality discussions than I could with a cloud of pressure hanging over my head that I am expected to read and comprehend specific ideas or concepts.
I’m sure teachers let kids share about their ideas and feelings but there are real, defined, issues that should be taught to students. The teachers are usually well educated on the books they teach. They are the experts. And being tested over a book is part of life. Reading for school is often different than reading for pleasure. Hated the Iliad but learned from it.
@Linda Okay.
@Laura So do I. I was an English major in college and had some wonderful professors whose enthusiasm for their subject fueled my love of lierature!
but–some “forced” reading does open up students to books they would never have read. Many students find they like the assigned reading. I think the teacher’s approach and a great classroom discussion makes a huge difference. Just my opinion.
Wonder.
I Am Malala; Wonder; There There; The Things They Carried.
Color of Law
Grapes of Wrath & Les Miserables(not sure about the spelling)
A very small book, easy read, The Cay.
Oh, I love The Cay. It was a phenomenal book to use in a novel study back when I taught 5th graders. But even as an adult I’d enjoy it. Now that you brought it up it’s on my reread list.
@Nancy also Timothy of the Cay!
@Barbara yup!
@Nancy, as a middle school teacher, the 7th graders read it. The 6th graders read The Karate Kid and 8th graders read Diary of Anne Frank. They liked all the books. I really liked The Cay, also.
Books set in other countries or cultures. I think it was Mark Twain that said “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness…”. I think people need exposure to others to realize there are different ways to do things. Reading can stand in for travel…
Every time I embark on reading a new book, I am immersed in the country or the theme of the novel. We travel with our minds!
I feel like I’ve been in that country where the book took place every time. I love books set in Paris and Italy.
Scotland for me
I’d love to see Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie taught in our public schools.
We put it in our AP Lit class
@Susan Im reading it now!
Beartown
Just finished that amazing book?
Reading the sequel now. Wonderful book, really well written and makes you think. We all want to think we’d be on the side of Maya. But against the “Golden One” would we?
Ok, this is a long post, but I have very strong opinions about this and related subjects. *gets on soap box*
Personally, I grew up being required to read a bunch of books. While I do like that it introduced me to some great literature, I hate that it took up almost all my reading time. For example, I don’t have fond memories of Grapes of Wrath not because it was a bad book, but because in my mind, it was that assignment that kept me from reading 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
I think major subjects in literature should each have one book. Literature is supposed to make you think and reflect upon the world and yourself and I think THAT is what should be emphasized more than individual books. *gets off soap box*
The books that impacted me the most in school and that I thought we got the best discussions out of were Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Hamlet (read out loud in class)
survival guides , emergency first aid , basic thoughtfulness to your other humans , dance hour , nature walks . .
O , and music appreciation – did I say music ?? And how about a few outtings to the local planetarium !!
The Good Earth
Diary of Anne @Frank
Diary of Anne frank is a middle school book. In my district it is read in 8th grade though on some districts it’s read earlier.
@Jean all ages.
@Jean In one of the school districts here they read Anne Frank at the same time for History they do WWII. The teacher do this together.
@Estherjane that is how class readings should be planned. Some middle schools read The Cay during WWII unit.
@Jeannie the same book should not be taught in more than one grade level.
Tale of Two Cities
To Kill a Mockingbird
Man’s Search for Meaning
ha ha , I TOTALLY misunderstood this question
All books!
haha , yeah , except for ” Deliverance” ; the one book we asked our two children to never read . And they didn’t !!!O course , Tom adopted Bart Simpson’s GUIDE TO LIFE as his particular manifesto while Lela carried around Mercedes Lackey and Laura Ingalls.
Let the students vote! We were allowed to do that; we read “Rebecca” by Daphne Dumarier and “Dandelion Wine”by Ray Bradbury. A couple of my favorite.
I think there should be a very fascinating poetry book , teacher could assign kids to all read a particular stunning one , say , “Dirge Without Music ” and they could talk about it the next morning . .( Of course , if this was 2001 my son would read it on the way to school the next day . . )
Unbroken, Endurance, One Summer: America in 1927, The Boys in the Boat, All The Light We Cannot See. There are so many books about history that are so well written, they would really spark interest in kids and they could learn what people have gone through in their lives and realize how incredibly easy they have it in life. Maybe it would help them grow up and be more responsible and appreciative and less entitled and sensitive.
I enjoyed most of the books I was assigned, when in high school, though I didn’t enjoy any Ernest Hemingway novels. Did it do me any harm to read books i wasn’t fond of? No. Nor did it prevent me from finding time for pleasure reading. My point? I think it’s important to expose young people to a variety of authors and genre. I also believe the classics are still relevant.
The Glass Castle.
This book was so moving for me, I just don’t know how to explain why.
For me it was a book that showed that humans can overcome anything. I think it would inspire students to strive to move forward toward their goals.
I’m from a fairly poor socioeconomic background, the dysfunction in my house was not as pointed, yet it was kinda the same in that my dad was hot and cold on the parental role, leaving my mother who was overwhelmed with 4 kids and limited resources ill-equipped to deal with us, and so she more or less let us fend for ourselves. Reading this book reminded me, and made me glad that it wasn’t this bad.
Books with strong women protagonists..showing them handling many situations.
The Killer Angels
The Warmth of Other Suns
I don’t think specific books should be taught in high school. You do not instill a love of book in kids by forcing them to read a classic. I would rather they be encouraged to find books that speak to them.
I fear high school is too late. If a young person doesn’t love books by then, it probably isn’t likely they ever will. Children need to be read to and provided a variety of reading materials at a very early age.
Totally agree
@Heidi i also agree. I started reading to my children when they were babies. My kids and grandkids all love to read.
I do think they need to be exposed to classics. We lived near a childrens’ theatre that sometimes produced classics and my kids also enjoyed those without being required to read. When they were older, they did read some of the classics because they were interested.
@Heidi both my children were provided a variety of reading materials at a very early age both were read to from the time they were born. One loves to read and one finds it difficult. and I don’t think it’s that people don’t like to read I think there’s a variety of reasons why they might find it difficult to sit still long enough to read. Is one example of why are person might not like to read. But I don’t think it’s ever too late for anything. You sound like a teacher from a public school. Where they don’t teach individuals they teach groups.
@Jeanne I’m not a teacher but I am the mother of 4 grown children and 4 school age grandchildren. I stand by what I said, it is unlikely a child will learn to love reading if they haven’t done so by high school. Key word, unlikely. It’s also why I suggested a variety of types of reading materials. My son wasn’t the best reader but he liked comic books. Then he discovered computers and started going through HTML books. We made sure to have what interested each child.
My son, who has learning disabilities, started reading my husband’s car magazines in middle school because that is what interested him. His reading improved so much by 8th grade. He became an excellent reader in high school and was reading all sorts of books on his own by then. After high school, he became a certified mechanic, welder and machinist, so he has learned several trades and has a successful career and is able to support his family and himself through a lot of blood, sweat and tears. None of this would have been possible if he had not been able to read.
@Heidi The original question had nothing to do with the idea that high school would teach children to read. The question was what books should be required reading in high school. Forcing kids to read certain books might turn them off to reading while allowing them to pick books that speak to them might foster a deeper level of books
Books that expose them to other cultures, the truth about history. I recently finished Beloved by Toni Morrison and it opened my eyes to slavery and racism. I think sometime we have an unrealistic picture of issues.
If you liked Beloved, please read Sing Of Solomon. It is amazing. Made me fall in love w/ Toni Morrison.
@Karen, thank you, I will.
All the classics – Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Black Beauty, Hans Brinker and the Silver Skates, Where the Red Fern Grows, Treasure Island …. the list goes on and on…..Huckleberry Finn, Tom Sawyer….
Some of these books were taught to me in school!
These are great reads. I think they should be read well before high school, though.
Tell the Wolves I’m Home
Raj Quartet, The Hate U Give, The Underground Railroad, anything by Amy Tan or Charles Dickens.
I am a big believer in kids being exposed to The Classics. When I was in high school, we had a summer reading list, but I don’t remember that any of the books were good. I was lucky because my mother was extremely well read. She introduced me to Somerset Maugham, Jane Austen, the Bronte sisters, Hemingway, Guy de Maupassant, Dickens and Thackeray to name a few. I think my teenage years would have been a lot harder without these wonderful friends.
I also think kids should be exposed to the classics. We read them when I was in high school in the 60’s in Northern California. I have always felt fortunate that I had great teachers who exposed us to great literature-Steinbeck, London, Hemingway, Tennessee Williams, as well as the classics. I do know that the education I had in high school and certainly college, has had a huge influence on my whole life, especially in the wide range of books that I enjoy reading.
@Donna, I totally agree.
I also enjoyed “The Necklace” by Guy de Maupassant, anything by H.H. Munro (Saki); and “The Last Leaf” by O. Henry.
Anything by Khaled Hosseini
He’s a great writer.
Yes—The Kite Runner works for upper grades and so easy to have a great discussion over topics in the novel.
I liked The Kite Runner, also A Thousand Splendid Suns. My mother-in-law hated The Kite Runner so I couldn’t get her to read anything else by the author.
Call me American by Abdi nor Iftin
Refugee by Alan Gratz
Ali and Dante discover the secrets of the universe by Benjamin Alire Saenz
Wonder by RJ Palacio
Tell the wolves I’m home – Carol Rifka Brunt.
The boy in the striped Pajamas by John Boyne.
A monster calls – Patrick Ness
Books that are easy reads and great stories but with a lot more than just the story..
I am reading a glorious novel by Chris Cleave (Little Bee) which takes place in London during the Blitz. The title is “Everyone Brave is Forgiven.” I love it!
Back in my day, with the exception of TKAM (which is my GAR vote), most of the required reading titles that I can recall were dystopian literature (and Shakespeare tragedies)–1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies…I never have understood why. There had to be something else with merit we could have read that wasn’t “the future will be terrible, and power is corrupting”. I have always been a reader, but if I had not been, those titles would not have inspired me to read anything.
1984 by George Orwell. We read it when I was in high school in the 1960’s.
In our 8th grade Honors program we teach Night by Wiesel, The Count of Monte Cristo, A Christmas Carol, and To Kill a Mockingbird. We believe in classics.
I believe in classics, as well, but the reality is that students today can’t relate to the story lines in such books and if the books are “taught”, then often students will see the books as just another classroom exercise. If the books are presented according to the theory espoused by Louise Rosenblatt (reader response) then students are inclined to experience the books rather than endure them.
@Ann , our students don’t endure them. CMC is a favorite, and the teaching of it is an event. The other teachers get excited when students begin reading it. They are surprised by ACC because they have seen every version of the story line. The Holocaust always intrigues. The hardest is perhaps To Kill a Mockingbird because they are about to graduate and have serious senioritis…8th grade version.
Reader response is one way. Teacher enthusiasm is another, and I am super enthusiastic about those books.
But I know what you mean. There is a preconceived notion in them about classics. It’s like our poetry unit…takes a lot more energy to get them to want to go there.
Students should be exposed to more critical theories than just reader response. I’ve also found that the heavy use of it exclusively in lit classrooms leads to a lot of problems. 1-Encourages watering down curriculum to only recent and less challenging works that the teacher believes students “can relate to” —then we have education as a mirror instead of opening windows to the world. 2-Discourages discussion and discovery of more complex literary structures, 3-takes work out of the author’s culture and context (or eliminates this problem with “relevant” and easier material). 4-Convinces students all reading is for pleasure and something they don’t easily enjoy lacks value. The last is very problematic as most of our students will not be lit majors. They need to know how to slog through that ed psych text or medical research journal or history text for their future.
@Penny
It is still a little hard for me to think of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD as a classic! Of course, it is well-qualified to be termed one – and a fav of mine – but when I first read Mockingbird it was relatively “new,” as was the movie with Gregory Peck when it premiered. Obviously I am a child of the ‘60s (more like a “teen of the ‘60s”) and I can even recall as far back as the 50s and watching the integration of the Little Rock schools, being appalled at how those children & their families were being treated. So many memories on this score, and today’s headlines make me fear parts of our country are returning to (or never really changed as much in attitude) a warped vision of an all-white nation, with any non-whites not meriting basic human rights. And yet citizens are once again stepping up to the plate, making known that they do not agree with a “menu” that includes the stripping of those rights. I guess what I am getting at is that this is a “classic” that is easy enough to relate to current times, so long as teachers are allowed to do it. It contains the roots of what many are trying to protect today. Definitely TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD should be included in every h.s. curriculum. I’d say the same for THE THINGS THEY CARRIED, 1984, & A HANDMAID’S TALE.
Marilyn Zembo Day , one year I remember that I was going on about how the blacks were treated; I wish I could remember exactly what I was saying because it would make this more understandable. Maybe I was telling them about my own experiences. Anyway, I could tell they weren’t tracking with me. One of the students finally said, “Ms. Jackson, that hasn’t been our experience. We have grown up together.” I remember being stopped short by that. And it was true of that class; they were all friends and socialized together. It made me rethink how I would approach the book. I read it soon after it came out, and the racial injustice really resonated with me. Still does.
@Linda I have lost the comment you just posted and can’t find your poetry post.
I can’t find it either.
Students not only need to understand the time period a story is set in, but also the time period in which it was written in. They need guidance on how literature reflects and affects society as a whole and not just the reader’s perspective. This not only teaches critical thinking, but also empathy and broadening one’s perspective.
@Penny I love those choices for 8th grade. I think they are a great bridge between Young Adult (pre-high school reading level) and Classic/Modern literature (high school/pre-college reading Ievel)
The New Jim Crow
The classics and poetry. Students get out of it what you, as a teacher , put into it. These are both wonderful areas to teach. You never know what will become of it. Example: “All that poetry we learned in your English class made me a better song writer. I write most of the lyrics.” Who would have guessed.
I love poetry. The longer I have taught it, the more I have fallen in love with it. It’s not always a teacher favorite, I have discovered. When we start the unit, I ask how many of them don’t like poetry. Lots of hands and groans. It’s a hump to overcome.
They need to start teaching the classics like Aristotle, Plato, Homer, and Ovid. They should also teach other philosophers. Kids today don’t know how to think. They’re told what to think. The classics and philosophy will teach them how.
Yes, I agree with that. Such a battle these days though. I am about to begin my 46th and probably last year of teaching. There is still the expectation of covering all the things we should, and yet so much has changed in the world. It’s a much harder struggle for their time and interest than before with all the distractions out there . There are a lot of things that should be done, and our school works at it all the time. But the battle is real. I know what you are saying, and there are a lot of things we ought to do…and we keep trying.
I don’t fault the teachers, Penny. I know the profession is difficult from experience. I don’t even know who is to blame. I feel like we’ve lost an important battle with the government or tech and advertising companies — a battle we didn’t even know we were fighting. Good luck this school year, and thanks for your years of service to our children.
@Penny kudos to you and to all the other dedicated teachers out there! I am who I am today because of some wonderful teachers I had, especially one in 8th grade and one in high school, who exposed me to the classics, poetry, different types of literature and critical thinking. I am forever grateful that I had such great influences in my life, including my parents. I have also exposed my children and grandchildren to different types of books. I agree that it is tough doing that with the youth of today with so many outside forces against us.
@Rebecca thanks. As you can imagine, I am going in with mixed emotions, knowing that this is probably it. But what a run. I wouldn’t change it for the world. As the old song says, “With all its faults, I love it still.”
@Donna , thanks. Thanks for being grateful for mentors in your life.
Philosophy the modern way? My son was reading a comicbook about a self-thinking robot family…
We had a great discussion about that topic! If that robot is able to make a decision .. are you allowed to turn that robot off if you do not agree?
I love classics but am hesitant to use them before a deeper love of books has been born..
Penny Jackson my English teacher at Armijo High School in Fairfield, CA, Virginia Scardigli, didn’t talk about her past. She introduced us to John Steinbeck and Lawrence Ferlinghetti (San Francisco Beat Poet). I found her obituary a few years ago and was amazed.
https://m.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=virginia-caldwell-scardigli&pid=91370566&referrer=0&preview=false
@Donna oh my gosh! How fascinating was she! What was she like as a teacher? Our Holocaust speaker that came to our school each year was amazing. He looked like a successful well-dressed businessman, much like their grandfathers looked. And then he opened his mouth and told his life story. There was something about that juxtaposition that made his story that much more unbelievable.
@Dorine – Someone must have versions for children?
I think your post illustrates the larger problem. You read with your son and discuss the book. Many parents don’t discuss books with their children much less read themselves. Many parents shove some form of technological device at their children to keep them occupied. No book can compete with what those things do to their brains.
Penny Jackson. Mrs Scardigli was such a kind, interesting person. She always had a smile and made everyone feel welcome. She even made Don Quixote fun for students who weren’t that interested. She was a very inspired teacher. I graduated from high school in 1964 and I will always remember her.
@Rebecca I read with my children and discussed the books afterwards. I think it made the books more meaningful and it also gave me a clearer idea of what they understood and remembered. My son (who is now an adult) has learning disabilities and reading together helped his reading retention. He was a great reader by 8th grade!
@Rebecca .. so true.. we read a lot and try to learn every day.
We moved from Europe 4 years ago and I am still amazed by how willing kids in the US are to read and learn!
Going to find out whether there are versions for children, in Holland (a small country and in comparison very few people speaking Dutch) you only get ‘the originals’, somewhat modernized at best. They are really in despair about reading/writing/spelling in general because ‘it’s enough if you understand me’ has become common.
@Rebecca that is so true. I guess it is a fever!
Penny Jackson- scroll down
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I’m way past that. I retired last year after 52 years.
This may be a cop out answer but, I think the best person to answer that is a really well read high school student and here is why. Because I am such a completely different human than I was in high school. Assuming that a teen will get something out of a book that I got something out of is faulty thinking.
I absolutely love this comment. I just graduated high school last year and I remember having teachers who seemed to think that EVERY student should be incredibly moved by EVERY classic novel we read. It was really annoying and kind of felt like they were saying that we weren’t smart enough to have our own opinions because of our age. Just because the average 30-something finds meaning in it, doesn’t mean that I will at 17.
I’m a high school student who totally agrees! So many of my peers either don’t read or dread reading the assigned books… it’s heartbreaking because the habits we creat in high school will likely follow us for the rest of our lives
Caroline Francois I totally agree with you. I am a grandmother of 10 and 8 of them love to read. I am working on the other 2! I do not condemn younger people, especially those of you in high school. You are our future. I have many young friends-some in high school. I love talking with them and listening to their ideas. It is so refreshing, and yes, it does take me back 50 or 55 years. Keep going, keep reading, keep learning and never give up. Many questions in life you will not solve until you are older. I am 71 and I am still not too old to learn. You are young so enjoy your journey.
If you think high school is bad for being forced to read things you don’t want to, wait until college and/or the workplace. Believe me, Anatomy and Physiology of Speech, Swallowing, and Hearing Mechanisms isn’t exactly a page turner. ?
@Karen I agree! Or being asked to give a 5 minute speech on measuring spoons! Ugh! I’ll never forget that one!
Yes. I majored in library science and didn’t read anything for about 4 years after undergrad school. I eventually got over it but the professional/academic reading killed it for me for a while.
The longest story I read in highschool was a Readers digest version of something to enable me to write one book report. Now, I can’t get enough reading and digesting and discussing of many Genres. So..readers change.
Yes, our tastes change. I am downsizing from my home to a condo due to changes in my health. I have been boxing up books that I have either read or no longer want. I am giving them to a lady who is having a fundraiser yard sale for her sister-they lost everything in a house fire. It struck me yesterday that I have ALL types of books, so hopefully most of them will sell. The leftovers will be donated to charity. I don’t believe in ever throwing books away.
But my question would be Did the types of books you were required to read keep you from enjoying books sooner?
@Jane no, not at all.
The absence of a little background info on why a book was being required may have made reading a book more appealing. My 1st year college teacher made what we were about to read irresistible… even Shakespeare, for a girl who had never completed one book this was really something. SO…the explanation given by the teacher may have helped make the book relevant to my life at that time and I would have been compelled to read it. Relevance to a teenager is everything
@Diane I am always explaining to people-adults, teenagers, my grandchildren-why a certain book is important or why I like it. Sometimes they even take my advice and read it. Likewise, when someone recommends a book to me, I will usually read it.
I used to get that same kind of information from my mom and cousin….it’s a way to appreciate each other’s sensibilities. I miss that from my mom
Diane, I liked your comment about the “Readers Digest version”. My son was/is extremely dyslexic and I had to read to him for much of his education (He was homeschooled). However, I happened to find some Classics Illustrated thrown in the garbage by a neighbor, and it awakened his interest not only in the “classics” but also in other books. He really loved “The Giver”. as well as Call of the Wild by Jack London (we read this together) Today his dyslexia has improved to the point that he is a fairly fluent reader and earns his living as a shipper/receiver. I am very proud of him and give him most of the credit because he took the opportunity he was given and ran with it.
Old classics and new classics.
If they require specific books I think the worst thing the teachers can do is overanalyze the books to death. It’s because of this there are some possibly great books that I refuse to read today. Hello To Kill A Mockingbird and The Grapes of Wrath! The teacher I has would overanalyze every sentence to the point where I hated the books. Just allow the students to read and enjoy the book and assign a book report at the end.
Book reports are the #1 killer of reading.
Right on!!!!
To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee. I think, Inside Out and Back Again, by Thanhha Lai.
To Kill a Mockingbird, The Book Thief, 1984
Handmaid’s tale, 1984, Night, Mockingbird, Tale of 2 Cities, David Copperfield
I wish I could give a great list for this post. But I’m going to say… I definitely would NOT want to be a HS literature teacher trying to figure out a book list today. The actual “list” would need to be sensitive to soooo many individuals, I’m not even sure it could work. I’m not sure how they can even read any literature in HS without it somehow offending somebody, somehow.
It would be so very tough.
It seems like people are trying to protect their kids by keeping them ignorant.
@Donna how sad is that? So much great lit out there and not being able to recommend it for a HS reading list…
@Susan I agree. ☹️
@Diane – true
A strong school board is the answer to that problem. I had a parent file a complaint because my students were reading Maya Angelou’s I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings. She was offended at the 6 yr old’s description of being raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The book had previously been approved by the board, so no issue. I offered the student a different book, and the remainder of the class continued on with an incredible book. (This was a 9th grade honors English class, for the record.)
It is so hard finding books that don’t offend someone!
Exactly
@Suzanne I read that book in 9th grade, and we had to have our parents sign a permission slip. That is a pretty horrible scene, and it definitely wasn’t something I had expected. I’m glad I read it, but I can understand that for some students, it could be traumatizing.
@Linda wow! Thank you for all the minds and lives that you have influenced and inspired.
Easy, let THEM choose!!!
At my last school, about 90% of my students would have chosen nothing. And, no, that is not the title of a book. They just would not have read. And again, literature is a subject of instruction. We don’t wax eloquently about how we should let kids choose which algebra formulas to learn or which parts of human anatomy to learn in an anatomy class. Curricular standards are pushing fiction, poetry and drama out of English coursework anyway. Treating it as a subject for mere enjoyment only makes that seem a logical choice.
“Any book that helps a child to form a habit of reading, to make reading one of his deep and continuing needs, is good for him.”
– Maya Angelou
Just because you provide voice and choice to students doesn’t mean the rigor isn’t there as well. I teach a classics choice unit with my 9th graders. They choose the classic they want to read and the common core standards apply!
@Rebecca Obviously, then, they choose from your list. Then they did not have a completely free choice as this comment suggested. So your comment is moot. Regardless the hippie dippie “let’s all just love the book and talk about how it makes us feel” approach that dominated lit instruction for so long is what has made it expendable in the eyes of those in power over curricula. And most teachers still refuse to see that as is abundantly clear in this thread. Plus the “this is the greatest book ever and of course you will love it”. charade has convinced a million students they hate to read fiction. No one loves every book they pick up (this page proves that daily). The “teacher enthusiasm” nonsense in which we pretend we do and so do all good readers is so inauthentic. We need to help students find books they like and let them know it’s okay to not like a book but that sometimes for academic reasons, you have to read it anyway.
@Amy you must teach them how to choose based on their reading level, interest, and trying out different genres. In the school where I teach right now, almost 95% tell me they don’t like reading. How can we expect them to engage and become stronger readers if they hate it? I personally believe they need to discover the joy of it before analyzing and inferring and deeper level thinking can occur. Partnerships and discussion based book clubs are also great for this.
@Amy are you on crack?
@Rebecca So instead of participating in a discussion you choose to insult other posters. Nice.
@Amy I am willing to have a discussion with other dedicated teachers who trust their students’ voices. IDK what school district you work for, but in my district ELA teachers and curriculum are valued! Also you cannot compare Algebra and science classes to ELA classes. That’s why I asked you about crack!
If it’s “hippie dippie” to allow students freedom of choice in their reading sometimes then call me a hippie I’ll take it!
The first insult was calling someone else’s approach “hippie dippie.” Whatever that is supposed to mean. There was no reason for Amy to get rude and combative. Even her first reply was uncalled for.
There is nothing that can be taught with an old book none of the kids like that cannot be taught with a selection of books the kids enjoy reading. And of course they choose from a list. Duh. The teacher has to have read it.
@Denise thanks! I like you!
Watership Down! I’m still not a big classic reader, but love to read almost everything else. Grapes of Wrath.
Little Bee by Chris Cleave, Homegoing by Y’aa Gyasi in high school. I also love Skellig by David Almond for middle school.
Have you read another Cleave book–Everyone Brave is Forgiven. I loved it.
@Ann I agree it was great, difficult to read but great.
To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee
I’m reading it right now. Read it as a teenager. Love this book.
@Linda I love it too. If you are ever in Monroeville, Alabama, go to the cemetery and see all the Lee family tombstones. Also go to the Court House and the vacant lot where Harper Lee and Truman Capote lived. The houses are gone. The stones of the foundation are still there.
I had the great opportunity to see the garden and house of Emily Dickinson in Amherst, Massachusetts as an adult; and I was surprised to see how much this deepened my appreciation of her work by seeing evidence that she actually existed as a real person.
@Ann I think so too! I saw Louisa Mae Alcott’s home. Thoreau’s Walden’s Pond. Then in England I saw Ms Potter ‘s Hillcrest Home. We went to Jane Austin ‘s home in Bath, England. In London we saw Churchill ‘s War Room, underground. That was interesting. We saw Wordworth’s Dove Cottage. In Hartford, Connecticut we saw Mark Twain ‘s home. We saw Harper Lee site of her house and Truman Copote. She wrote To Kill A Mockingbird. We went to the cemetery where she and her family are buried.
The site for Harper Lee is in Monroeville, Alabama.
I think something like “The 5,000 Year Leap” by W. Cleon Skousen would be good for high schoolers to read. I know that there is some controversy about it, but I think it would be a good idea to educate students about what exactly the Constitution entails and the reasons/thoughts behind what is put in it.
Most states require courses in social studies for that.
They do, but this book goes more in depth than the social studies classes. It’s been over a decade since I was in high school, and I think they watered down history, social studies, etc quite a bit since then.
@Geni but back then it was biased
@Jane you’re right about that. It’s sad that bias is still a problem with a lot of books, etc that are used in schools. Each state/part of the country has different way of presenting history, etc. That’s why I think it’s important to introduce a wide range of resources and views on topics. Unfortunately, that doesn’t really happen a lot.
@Geni I couldn’t agree eith you more
@Geni Okay then. I taught government. Neither my colleague who is still teaching it or I watered it down. But thanks for denigrating social studies teachers on a public forum.
@Amy I wasn’t talking about social studies teachers when I made that comment. I was talking more about the way the school curriculums have changed. I know that the teachers are doing a great job. It’s just that we live in a society now where so many things are taken out of books/school work because they don’t seem to be PC enough. That’s what my comment was referring to. Thank you for being a teacher and inspiring others to learn more about the world around them.
I think Zinn’s, “People’s History of the US” should be taught so they don’t just get the white male good ol’ boy perspective, but multiple lenses. I had some amazing Socratic seminars with students using this text.
Megan Henningsen I haven’t read this one yet, although I did pick up a copy not too long ago. I’ve heard wonderful things about it. Another book that I like is Seymour Morris’ “American History Revised.” I like reading about history and I never fail to learn something new from each book.
I’m trying to think of other books that I think might be good for high school students to read. I really like Malcolm Gladwell’s books. “Outliers” is a particularly powerful one that has a lot of things that are helpful in every day life.
My daughter read this her sophomore year and loved it?
The only book of his that I didn’t enjoy as much as “What the Dog Saw.” That was because it didn’t seem to have a central theme and was more of a collection of random essays/thoughts.
As a retired HS history teacher would go to our English department and get a reading list for my own personal use what a shame in 2 years how things have changed so sad
1984
We read this my junior year of high school ?
The Bell Jar, A River Runs Through It, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, Their Eyes Were Watching God, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, The Sun Also Rises, Slaughterhouse-Five… there are more, but these spring to mind first ?
A very noble list?
Hemingway and Hurston . Plath and Angelou, Vonnegut and Plath are reads for the heavies and heaven is for Angelou and Hemingway.
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck.
One of my all time favorites. Steinbeck is one of my favorite California authors. I am a California Native. I just can’t help myself! I also love Jack London-another California boy.
And there are some great movies out there for these books.
@Ann yes, I always love the books more. I am downsizing from my home to a condo and just packed up my books, including my favorites-The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran, A Tree Grows In Brooklyn. To Kill A Mockingbird, Little Women, Steinbeck, London…
To Kill a Mockingbird, Walden, Their Eyes Were Watching God, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, Cold Sassy Tree
Good choices!
I think that I would include All’s Quite on the Western Front.
That was great! I must reread.
The Book Thief, The Help, The Outsiders, The Covenant.
Brave new world
Lord of the Flies
The Stranger
Amusing Ourselves To Death
Count of Monte Cristo!
The Blood of Emmitt Till
I am not familiar with this book. Can you tell me more?
@Ann it’s nonfiction by Timothy B Tyson. In 1955, white men in the Mississippi Delta lynched a 14 year old black boy from Chicago. The protest of his murder became the foundation of the Civil Rights movement.
@Judy , I know the story, Judy, but I appreciate your giving me the title of the book. I have always admired Mamie Till.
@Ann a heartbreaking read.
I just ordered it from Amazon. Thanks.
“Tell Me That You Love Me , Junie Moon “
All the classics. We read about 40 of them in high school. Of course, that was the 1960s. And the American educational institutions have progressed so far (obviously dripping sarcasm). Really …. they should read young adult novels rather than Hemmingway, Hesse, Edna Ferber, Upton Sinclair …… really sad.
I’m a teacher and I’ll tell you much of what we teach is much harder than what we did when we were young. We teach 7th graders more math than most learned in high school in the 70’s.
To everything there is a season., Robert. Young adult lit speaks to the world our kids live in. This lit is very age appropriate and also thought provoking. Let’s make them readers now so that later they might take on the classics.
40 classics in high school equals 10 a year. You must not have done much more than read and discuss. Today’s students also analyze and synthesize by writing analysis papers and creating other forms of writing that relate. Volume doesn’t equal quality
I believe that the canon classics should be read. However, there needs to be an inclusion of authors other than “dead white males”. For example, “And then We Heard the Thunder” by John Oliver Killens”;
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” by Dee Brown; “Farewell to Manzanar” by Jeanne Wakasuki Houston; or “Almost A Woman” by Esmeralda Santiago.
The House on Mango Street, Night, The Great Gatsby, Speak, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, Long Way Gone, A Lesson Before Dying, Their Eyes Were Watching God, Catcher In The Rye, The Bell Jar, lots of Shakespeare…
Read A Lesson Before Dying last month. Excellent! and Henrietta is one of my favorites!
These are just some of the books we teach in my school.
@Mary you’re students are very fortunate!
Unbroken and The Making Of Donald Trump by David Cay Johnston
Most of the ones people try to ban.
If it’s banned, there’s probably something in it worth thinking about
Agreed but all the ones they tried to ban not just some 🙂
Girl, Wash Your Face!
The For Dummies series of books.