Why on earth does he have an 11 year old girl have sex with 6 boys at the same time. I didn’t like the book to begin with and this just literally was disgusting. It had literally no reason
“I wasn’t really thinking of the sexual aspect of it. The book dealt with childhood and adulthood –1958 and Grown Ups. The grown ups don’t remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children–we think we do, but we don’t remember it as it really happened. Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood. It’s another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children’s library and the adult library. Times have changed since I wrote that scene and there is now more sensitivity to those issues.”
@Jordan I just finished the book and I loved it… But it was too long, and then I reached the children Sex part and ugh. It felt like I was reading grownup porn with kids as the characters and I hated it. It just felt wrong to me and left me feeling gross and uncomfortable (though I know Stephen King loves writing books that make you feel things strongly) but i don’t think I could ever read that again. I honestly preferred the movie.
@Jordan THAT ??Ugh I listened to it on audio IN MY CAR and literally sat in the driveway and just melted into the cringey twitch that took over the back of my neck.
@Jordan Ughh. Ugh. So I HAD to do audio because I tried physically reading it and just found it boring. I was thrilled when it was better on audio… until that. Ruined everything. Thank you for posting this because I just couldn’t even bring myself to terms that it even happened ?
I don’t think his explanation helps at all. I don’t care if it was a different time because there’s been two movies and neither of those movies even came close to touching on this. Different time my ass.
He could of achieved what he wished to achieve with this scene by having the children take part in numerous adult things…from alcohol, drugs and smoking etc and by using those activities would of been slightly more relatable than a child orgy.
Although I don’t agree with the choice of how the bridge was crossed, I believe it was because children couldn’t escape the sewer tunnels and they had to mentally and emotionally bridge the gap into adult hood to get out and that was their solution, as it was a mature act that brought their group back together again.
@Hanna yeah, I definitely agree he could have gone with an alternate route for showing how the kids emotionally and mentally grew up and “lost their innocence”, all I’m saying is from what I’ve ready about it- that was his intention and reasoning behind it.
Jordan Vukan I liked the book, but never understood this scene. It didn’t fit with the characters at all and just seems like an extremely lazy way to show “loss of innocence”
Oh I’m pretty sure he’s been clean for a long time now, but it’s pretty well known that during the height of his career he was an addict and alcoholic.
The way I explained to my 14 step daughter was they were separating theirselves from kids to adults. I think that Stephen King writes not only fictional monsters, but very real ones too. Real ones like dad’s who touch their daughters and sudden deaths and domestic violence. I’ve always admired that about Stephen King because nothing was sugar coated by him.
Alright, honestly I’ve only seen the movies and haven’t tried to tackle the book because its so long but Oh My Lord, my mind is blown at the comments ? I love to read spoilers so I want to say thank you, but definitely shocked to say the least
Read on a long flight from Japan. If I hadn’t been several thousand feet in the air, I would have opened a window and threw it out. Same goes for his other magnum opus The Stand. But in all fairness, I did like some of his other books.
Even without the “sex” scene I was frustrated with the book and just wanted to get through it. It’s littered with unnecessary details and I think the number of main characters could be cut in half. Then add the sewer scene on top of that and you’ve got a terrible book.
Hey I’m reading that now. I’m loving the book now. But I haven’t read that scene yet..but I’m sure there’s a good reason for it. They did have to face abnormal situations already anyways.
I tried to read his books twice. It and pet sematary. I finished It but dont think it was that great like everyone says. Too many unnecessary details. I DNF pet sematary because it was boring and didnt scare me at all. I dont think I’ll be reading his books again
I haven’t finished it but absolutely loved what I heard of the audiobook. I’ve also seen both movies. Since I haven’t read that scene I might be way off base, so please correct me if I am. But based on her development in the movies it seems that, while it is definitely unhealthy, it makes since that Beverly would believe the only way to connect with her male friends is through sex because of the abuse she suffered at the hands of her father. And it also makes sense that her immature hormonal friends would go along with it. Like I said, I haven’t actually read the scene but this is just my interpretation based on the movies, which left that scene out.
That scene was horrible and I basically skipped it entirely, but I still liked the book. I read it in four days and I regretted rushing through it because I missed it when I was done.
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Why on earth does he have an 11 year old girl have sex with 6 boys at the same time. I didn’t like the book to begin with and this just literally was disgusting. It had literally no reason
@Jordan this is his statement on that scene:
“I wasn’t really thinking of the sexual aspect of it. The book dealt with childhood and adulthood –1958 and Grown Ups. The grown ups don’t remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children–we think we do, but we don’t remember it as it really happened. Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood. It’s another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children’s library and the adult library. Times have changed since I wrote that scene and there is now more sensitivity to those issues.”
@Jordan I just finished the book and I loved it… But it was too long, and then I reached the children Sex part and ugh. It felt like I was reading grownup porn with kids as the characters and I hated it. It just felt wrong to me and left me feeling gross and uncomfortable (though I know Stephen King loves writing books that make you feel things strongly) but i don’t think I could ever read that again. I honestly preferred the movie.
@Hanna I’ve never watched the movie I’m assuming that part was left out?
@Jordan yes that part was definitely left out!
@Jordan THAT ??Ugh I listened to it on audio IN MY CAR and literally sat in the driveway and just melted into the cringey twitch that took over the back of my neck.
@Stephanie same. I unfortunately was listening to Audio too. It made it even more cringe worthy.
@Jordan Ughh. Ugh. So I HAD to do audio because I tried physically reading it and just found it boring. I was thrilled when it was better on audio… until that. Ruined everything. Thank you for posting this because I just couldn’t even bring myself to terms that it even happened ?
I don’t think his explanation helps at all. I don’t care if it was a different time because there’s been two movies and neither of those movies even came close to touching on this. Different time my ass.
@Lauren no kidding when have Child orgies ever been acceptable? Also he wrote it in the 1980s
@Jordan I could not agree more. That scene completely ruined the book and all of Stephen King for me. Absolutely disgusting
He could of achieved what he wished to achieve with this scene by having the children take part in numerous adult things…from alcohol, drugs and smoking etc and by using those activities would of been slightly more relatable than a child orgy.
@Jordan They legally cannot put it into the movie due to laws regarding child pornography.
Although I don’t agree with the choice of how the bridge was crossed, I believe it was because children couldn’t escape the sewer tunnels and they had to mentally and emotionally bridge the gap into adult hood to get out and that was their solution, as it was a mature act that brought their group back together again.
@Hales I mean I kind of get that…? But like also… Just do what the movies did and skip that. It felt like child porn to me honestly.
@Hanna yeah, I definitely agree he could have gone with an alternate route for showing how the kids emotionally and mentally grew up and “lost their innocence”, all I’m saying is from what I’ve ready about it- that was his intention and reasoning behind it.
@Hales yeah I’ve heard him say that so I guess that’s what he was thinking ? I think I’d feel very weird writing that as an author?
It was defiantly a bold choice to go with- to say the least. ?
Jordan Vukan I liked the book, but never understood this scene. It didn’t fit with the characters at all and just seems like an extremely lazy way to show “loss of innocence”
@Judy ?
He was also just doing a shit ton coke the whole time he wrote this novel. Like. Buckets of coke.
I think that might explain that scene more than any other explanation he could give.
@Amanda lets hope he stays off the coke because ?
Oh I’m pretty sure he’s been clean for a long time now, but it’s pretty well known that during the height of his career he was an addict and alcoholic.
The way I explained to my 14 step daughter was they were separating theirselves from kids to adults. I think that Stephen King writes not only fictional monsters, but very real ones too. Real ones like dad’s who touch their daughters and sudden deaths and domestic violence. I’ve always admired that about Stephen King because nothing was sugar coated by him.
Alright, honestly I’ve only seen the movies and haven’t tried to tackle the book because its so long but Oh My Lord, my mind is blown at the comments ? I love to read spoilers so I want to say thank you, but definitely shocked to say the least
I read this the first time when I was about 14 and I honestly didn’t even remember or recognize that scene until I reread it when I was older.
Read on a long flight from Japan.
If I hadn’t been several thousand feet in the air, I would have opened a window and threw it out.
Same goes for his other magnum opus The Stand.
But in all fairness, I did like some of his other books.
@Harry I’ve only read one other of his books 11/22/63 and I really liked that one. Now I’m hesitant to read anymore…
Jordan Vukan read Salem’s Lot and never sleep again.
Also Christine, or Carrie.
Or you can just go find something by Robert R. MacCammon.
(I recommend Mystery Walk)
I tried to think it was just metaphorical to make it seem less disgusting
I haven’t read it yet. I tried!
Even without the “sex” scene I was frustrated with the book and just wanted to get through it. It’s littered with unnecessary details and I think the number of main characters could be cut in half. Then add the sewer scene on top of that and you’ve got a terrible book.
Hey I’m reading that now. I’m loving the book now. But I haven’t read that scene yet..but I’m sure there’s a good reason for it. They did have to face abnormal situations already anyways.
@Pamela I find it so cringey I just felt wrong reading it. Good luck to you in finishing that giant book though!
I hate all his books lol
@Morgan Me too. Too damn wordy.
I tried to read his books twice. It and pet sematary. I finished It but dont think it was that great like everyone says. Too many unnecessary details. I DNF pet sematary because it was boring and didnt scare me at all. I dont think I’ll be reading his books again
Good to know about Pet Cemetery I was about to buy it before this “It” incident happened.
Hated it. It was a book I just couldn’t take to no matter the angle I came at it from. Stuck it back on my shelf and it’s waiting for a new home.
Went straight to the charity bag
I haven’t finished it but absolutely loved what I heard of the audiobook. I’ve also seen both movies. Since I haven’t read that scene I might be way off base, so please correct me if I am. But based on her development in the movies it seems that, while it is definitely unhealthy, it makes since that Beverly would believe the only way to connect with her male friends is through sex because of the abuse she suffered at the hands of her father. And it also makes sense that her immature hormonal friends would go along with it.
Like I said, I haven’t actually read the scene but this is just my interpretation based on the movies, which left that scene out.
That scene was horrible and I basically skipped it entirely, but I still liked the book. I read it in four days and I regretted rushing through it because I missed it when I was done.